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Old 02-16-2014, 09:56 AM
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My thoughts precisely. I would love to see the belt line lowered 1.75 inches. But i still love this car...
I agree as well. If it weren't for Crash standards that belt line would be lower. If you were to look at the backside of the interior door panel there is/are blocks of closed cell foam attached to the panel at shoulder height. All Mnfctrs are doing this. I am a former parts warehouse guy at the only Chevy dealer in the county (Marion Cty/Ocala, FL) and I handled all the warranty scrap. I left there 5 months ago. I is amazing what is going into cars these days.

I am waiting for GM/Chevrolet to reintroduce the ORIGINAL Z/24 RPO from back in 1967 that was an SS427 Impala. The NEW Impala is screaming for an LS7.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:50 AM
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Performance Traction Helps Camaro Z/28 Soar on Track

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DETROIT – Engineers call it “flying car” logic. On the 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28, the Performance Traction Management system delivers faster lap times on an undulating race track by helping maintain the car’s full power and momentum even if the tires briefly lose contact with the ground, in certain track conditions.

Created for track use only, the “flying car” logic woven into the Z/28’s standard PTM system integrates the chassis mode selection, Traction Control and Active Handling Systems. Each is tuned specifically in the Z/28 for optimal track performance and consistency, and is activated by the driver pressing a button in the center console.

Without “fly car logic”, the PTM would interpret the force reduction on the tires as a loss of traction and reduce torque to restore it. Such an intervention would likely slow the car and reduce momentum.

“PTM uses torque, lateral acceleration and rear-axle wheel slip to define the amount of traction control required, but when the car clears a rise on the track, it normally wants to decrease torque to increase traction,” said Bill Wise, Camaro Z/28 vehicle performance engineer.

“The unique logic in the system uses the ride-height sensors to determine the reduction in force on the tires that’s unique to track driving and allows the car to continue with uninterrupted momentum and, ultimately, a better lap time.”

Technologies such as PTM and the track-oriented logic helped the Camaro Z/28 log a lap on Germany’s legendary Nürburgring road course that was four seconds faster than the Camaro ZL1, and beat published times for the Porsche 911 Carrera S and the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640. The Flugplatz section of the Nürburgring has a rise that engaged the logic during the Z/28’s 7:37 lap time.

Additionally, PTM enables the driver to press the accelerator pedal to wide open at the exit of the corner and manages acceleration based on the given vehicle dynamics. Five performance levels, or modes, are available to accommodate a variety of driving conditions.

The track-oriented “flying car” logic is available in all PTM modes, but it is most effective in Mode 5, calibrated for the fastest lap times. The Z/28 represents the first non-Magnetic Ride Control application of PTM, pioneered on the Corvette ZR1 and incorporated in the Camaro ZL1. Engineers further refined it for the car on the road course at GM’s Milford Proving Ground in Michigan and on Virginia International Raceway and Road Atlanta.

Like the Flugplatz, a section of the Milford course proved particularly effective in calibrating the logic. It features a hill sandwiched between turns Pahrump 1 and 2, named for and based on a pair of challenging corners on the 3.4-mile-long road course at Spring Valley Motorsports Ranch, in Pahrump, Nev.

“The hill between Pahrumps 1 and 2 is ideal for testing the feature,” said Wise. “The car noticeably lifts as it clears the top of the rise. Without the logic built into PTM, the torque reduction would unnecessarily slow the car. With it, the car receives full torque over the rise, which helps reduce the lap time – and it is part of the reason why PTM Mode 5 can be as good, or better, than a driver’s best effort, on certain track conditions.”

Complementing PTM, the Z/28’s reflexes over rises and grip around corners are competition-derived spool-valve dampers, specific suspension bushings, coil springs and stabilizer bars, a unique zero-preload limited-slip differential and 19-inch wheels wrapped with Pirelli PZero Trofeo R motorsport-compound tires.

“The new Camaro Z/28 was bred on and for the track,” said Wise. “From the hardware bolted to the chassis to the software such as the “flying car” logic, every element built into it was designed to help deliver faster lap times, with consistency, control and dependability.”

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The 2014 Camaro Z/28 is the fastest Camaro ever on a track, with improved speed coming from three areas:

Increased grip: The Z/28 is capable of 1.08 g in cornering acceleration, due to comprehensive chassis revisions
Increased stopping power: The Z/28 features Brembo carbon ceramic brakes capable of 1.5 g in deceleration, and consistent brake feel, lap after lap
Reduced curb weight: The naturally aspirated Z/28 is 55 pounds lighter than the Camaro SS 1LE, with changes ranging from lightweight wheels to thinner rear-window glass.
Power comes from the 7.0L LS7 engine, rated at an SAE-certified 505 horsepower (376 kW) and 481 lb-ft of torque (652 Nm). A close-ratio six-speed manual transmission is the only transmission offered and power is distributed to the rear wheels via a limited-slip differential featuring a helical gear set, rather than traditional clutch packs, for optimal traction.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:56 AM
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:58 AM
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Great read!

Does the ZL1 utilize the PTM "flying car" logic systems?
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vid link - pretty cool. Mark is the carbon brake set up the same as ZR1 and can they run on an 18" rim?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgv5ihrHA-I
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"Looks" aside.... I'm very impressed that the $75K Chevy Camaro has managed to garner #38 on a list of Top 100 Times @ Nurburgring...


Think about that -- and then go to the list and edit all of the cars that CAN'T be driven to work or the grocery store off the list... and it moves up that chain even further!


http://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-t...times-top-100/
I noticed something else... That 38th position was run in the rain!!!
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Old 02-26-2014, 03:34 PM
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Additionally, PTM enables the driver to press the accelerator pedal to wide open at the exit of the corner and manages acceleration based on the given vehicle dynamics. Five performance levels, or modes, are available to accommodate a variety of driving conditions..

So the gas pedal just becomes a "go" button? I mean I know it's faster this way but I think we're losing part of what we love about this hobby.
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