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Old 06-11-2009, 11:23 AM
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I'm looking forward to see having you. It is nice to see you roaming around here again.

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Old 06-11-2009, 11:29 AM
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Yea thanks, actually made it to work this morning. probably only staying till lunch but it feels good to be out of the house

I scheduled an aircraft for the afternoon of the 26th. If anyone wants to fly to Rodgers from Concord airport that morning, feel free to give me a shout.



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Old 06-11-2009, 01:18 PM
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If I was closer I'd jump at the chance to fly down with you. I am planning a road trip for next summer and there are A LOT of shops I am trying to see. Not my wifes first chioce for a vacation, but it sounds perfect to me!

I am going to have to get a set of those pedals for sure. Very nice.
Then again, is there anything that comes out of Ironworks that is not top notch? Just about everytime someone starts a new build here it costs me money!
Rodger, I saw the write up on the Nova in Muscle Car, nice work and congrats on the ink! The whole shop looks great. Are those your legs behind the Nova in the opening shot? Also a good write up on Chassisworks. Nice stuff.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:34 PM
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yeah those are my legs and my big ass feet......I work out..

You would have thought they could have waited till the lift was all the way up and I got out of the way before the took the pic.


Anybody is welcome anytime as long as the shop lights are on and the alarm to the shop has not been set we can give shop tours.
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Hey Rich I might take you up on that. I'm in Concord also.
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Old 06-11-2009, 04:21 PM
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Today we removed the old sub and installed the new Chassisworks Street machine front clip. We got some weights of the old and the new. The old subframe we pulled out is manual steering and the sway bar is so small it looks like a coat hanger.


It weighs 261 lbs.

The Chassisworks front clip comes with power steering, a big 1 5/16" sway bar and much bigger spindles with Chassisworks bigger bearing front hubs, weighs 230 lbs. I'm trying to get the weight of a stock clip with a bigger sway bar and power steering box, I bet it is another 10-15lbs.




So the stock 1967 camaro you see pictured weighs 1728lbs, in it's semi stripped down state, no windshield, but all other glass intact, most mechanical parts (Brake master, fuel and brake lines, Ebrake cables, etc)



By just removing the front fenders, core support and hood we lost 117 lbs. CRAZY I would have never guessed that stuff weighed so much.

HELLO CAN I SPEAK TO TYLER AT ANVIL.... PLEASE



And finally with the Chassiworks front clip installed and the front sheetmetal back on just like it was in the beginning, we have a total weight of 1646 lbs. So we lost 82 with this just the install of the front subframe. and it lowered the car proababley 2". The ride sticks that come with the Chassisworks clip set the car at exact ride height. You can see the stance is coming togther on the front quite well. Now we need to do something about the rear.



And with the front sheetmetal back in place



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The weight savings looks to be sway bar and the lack of second crossmember. Do you plan to reinforce the car with another crossmember? Looks like a fun project.
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Old 06-11-2009, 05:20 PM
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What do you mean the sway bar being the difference? They sway bar on the front end is at least 75% bigger. And it is installed. We lost 86lbs and have a bigger sway bar and the stock sub has a tiny sway bar and a manual steering box. I believe the weight savings is in the shear mass of the stock clip and mass of the stock control arms. Plus the fact we lost a steering box and linkage, plus it is tied into one unit with the rack and pinion.

For the Price of an after market clip now days, people used to buy the whole car. Kinda crazy how times ahave changed, but so has the quality of the products we are all replacing on our cars. I actually thought we might have lost a bit more weight then just 86, my guess was 100.

Here is pic with the sway bar installed.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:25 PM
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Whoops....the alston sway bar is clearly way heavier. The lack of second crossmember has to be the biggest difference though. Have to ask, if the frames only had 31lbs of difference on the scales how did the car lose 82 lbs?
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:50 PM
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Well I guess we will have to answer that question a little early with the info for Day 3. The stock sub with Drum brakes and these roller wheels and tires weighs 372lbs.





Since the brake are not here yet, Once we put front brakes on the car, what will it bring the weight in the front back up to?

Which is lighter stock drum brakes or Big 13 brakes from Wilwood?


So you are Correct the Chassisworks subframe contributed to 31 lbs loss, but how much weight will we put back on when the 13" Wilwood 6 piston brakes arrive?

I was shocked by this number also.
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