'13 Ford Shelby GT500 most powerful production V8

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Matt.A

Clearly, you have an automatic, red, C6 Corvette, everyone is considered a yuppy to you.

Matt

Red auto is that your wife's car? :

Originally Posted by tjtucker

The GT 500 is pure over kill for the street. There is no way to get the power to the ground unless you have drag radials.
I know I had a 2008 Saleen and the car would just blow the tires off in 1st and second and it was only making 360 rear wheel horse power.

If I was going to buy another Mustang I would save 30K and buy the Boss. The boss is plenty fast for the street and just a better all around car.
The proof was when Top Gear USA tracked it against the Roush supercharged Mustang and the Boss was faster. Since the Boss can be purchased for under sticker it might be a "Best Buy" as far as new cars go.

I have had fast I would rather have a cool PT car which is street friendly and motor on.

TJ

Boss Laguna Seca model is all you need. I have the same sickness as most on this site so I'm spending more on a Torino than the cost of the GT500....

Did I just admit that? I hope my wife doesn't look at this thread...

[J-440]

Most powerful production V8 in history? Did'nt the 69 ZL-1 in the Camaros and the 2 Vettes produce over 600hp WITHOUT a supercharger and also with pushrods? Granted they could'nt handle worth a dam and got crappy mileage, I think Ford needs to retract that statement.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by J-440

Most powerful production V8 in history? Did'nt the 69 ZL-1 in the Camaros and the 2 Vettes produce over 600hp WITHOUT a supercharger and also with pushrods? Granted they could'nt handle worth a dam and got crappy mileage, I think Ford needs to retract that statement.

Did they produce over 662? If not why would they retract it? Were COPO cars really production cars?

In the end it just means Chevy has to up the hp of the new Vette so even if your a Chevy guy its not a bad thing.

[fleetus macmullitz]

The highest published horsepower figure by Chevrolet back in the musclecar heyday was 450 (a few C2 427 Corvettes and the '70 454 LS-6 Chevelle SS) which was higher than any other manufacturer in that era, to the best of my recollection.

[J-440]

Ok well now we are talking production numbers, maybe I should retract my statement. I'm one of those rare Mopar guys that thinks the HEMI is way overrated. Good motor but ridiculously overpriced. I give respect where its due and Ford has definitly upped its game.

[J-440]

Yeah but advertised HP vs crank HP were way off. Manufacturers lied to the insurance companies not to mention the opposition on what was really under the hood. 426 HEMI with 425HP...ha!! An LS6 with 450HP...yeah right. Old timers will tell you this. Man the 60's were great and I was born too late!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

Yep, there are plenty of us old-timers here that lived it.

And it was great.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by J-440

Yeah but advertised HP vs crank HP were way off. Manufacturers lied to the insurance companies not to mention the opposition on what was really under the hood. 426 HEMI with 425HP...ha!! An LS6 with 450HP...yeah right. Old timers will tell you this. Man the 60's were great and I was born too late!!

Yea that's why the NHRA has their own hp handicapping scale for stock class.

The Hemi is like the Boss 429 Ford. Lots of potential if done right.

Did you finish that Charger of yours? I don't think I ever saw a finished pic. Sure is a cool looking project.

I want a 1970 Superbee with a six pac 440 with the ramcharger hood for my Mopar ride (I always like the ugly ducklings I guess). That round tai-light charger would be high on my list of must haves.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by J-440

Yeah but advertised HP vs crank HP were way off. Manufacturers lied to the insurance companies not to mention the opposition on what was really under the hood. 426 HEMI with 425HP...ha!! An LS6 with 450HP...yeah right. Old timers will tell you this. Man the 60's were great and I was born too late!!

Remember that they can pick the hp number from anywhere on the dyno sheet -- they never said ''425 hp @ 4600 rpm" -- nor did they mention TORQUE (the only true measurement).

Also PRIOR to 1973 they were rated at SAE GROSS... in other words - no accessories etc -- after that they were rated SAE NET with accessories as installed in the car.

[Vegas69]

Most of the whole under rated deal is legend. HP has come a looooong way in 40 years. The 69 ZL1 didn't make anywhere close to 600hp. I'd say, maybe 500.