Imagine its World War ll &Your in the cockpit

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by Roadrage David

RR merlin engine you meen lol. wel stastistics hase shown that the me109(latest version) was the spitfire,s equal in the dogfights. you know who disirfs the real medal of houner during the battle of britan "" the hawker hurricane"" the spitfire always got the credit but 80% of the plains that fought the germans where the Hurrican. shows you that a less disired airplain, with the rights stuff in the cockpit can do wonders http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=QWrYogVmPzU

Later versions of the Spitfire had a RR Griffin. Here's a link that tells you about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superma...gined_variants

[johnny rockett]

I started this thread mainly because of my interest in flying both in cars and planes....be that as it may I could not help but notice on the show " Dogfights" that an American pilot was in trouble as he ran out of ammunition and was being chased by a German 109.....he mentioned that he had to hit the throttle and take the plane to a new power level by adding water/alcohol etc......after researching this thoroughly I notice the approach by the Germans and the Anglos was quite different......now we all know the Germans were pretty smart about building qaulity well engineered equipment...but what I thought was interesting that an supercharger/carb deal was faster for a few moments and the exta power this American Pilot was able to use kept him alive.

The pilot probably did not understand his engine that much and all he knew was he better push the throttle past the saftey gate and that it would add a bunch of power......I think it went from like 18 pounds of boost to 23 pounds and then used the water/alcohol injection to keep it from self destructing etc

We still have the blow thru carb guys and now with EFI here we have that bunch........but the carbs are still plenty fast and there is something to be said for keeping things simple....

You might want to look up Beatrice Shilling.....who helped those spitfires get out of trouble with a simple fix...she evidently was some kind of woman for those times..

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by johnny rockett

You might want to look up Beatrice Shilling.....who helped those spitfires get out of trouble with a simple fix...she evidently was some kind of woman for those times..

Yes she was. Nice to see someone that knows of her. Oddly when the P-51 first came out with the RR Merlin it didn't do very well at high altitudes until a guy (who's name I can never remember) who worked for Packard came up with a simple and easy solution. One of those times when the last person you expected to have the answer fixed things.

[Roadrage David]

Originally Posted by Spiffav8

Later versions of the Spitfire had a RR Griffin. Here's a link that tells you about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superma...gined_variants

yes very intresting but only 100 where build!...

[tyoneal]

Originally Posted by johnny rockett

The Planes are Messerschmidts and Spitfires

The Germans have fuel injection and Nos

The Anglos have Superchargers & Carbs

Which plane would you want to be flying?

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Definitely the P-38 Lightning!

Ty

[clill]

I got it...

[ccracin]

Originally Posted by clill

I got it...

I was wondering when you would pop in! Nice!

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by clill

I got it...

The thought of driving that car scares me.

[johnny rockett]

The thought crossed my mind.....very fast of course....What one of those engines could do in a car.........MAN I LOVE THAT CAR!!!

Great Job!

Whod a thunk it!

[Fluid Power]

Originally Posted by johnny rockett

I started this thread mainly because of my interest in flying both in cars and planes....be that as it may I could not help but notice on the show " Dogfights" that an American pilot was in trouble as he ran out of ammunition and was being chased by a German 109.....he mentioned that he had to hit the throttle and take the plane to a new power level by adding water/alcohol etc......after researching this thoroughly I notice the approach by the Germans and the Anglos was quite different......now we all know the Germans were pretty smart about building qaulity well engineered equipment...but what I thought was interesting that an supercharger/carb deal was faster for a few moments and the exta power this American Pilot was able to use kept him alive.

The pilot probably did not understand his engine that much and all he knew was he better push the throttle past the saftey gate and that it would add a bunch of power......I think it went from like 18 pounds of boost to 23 pounds and then used the water/alcohol injection to keep it from self destructing etc

We still have the blow thru carb guys and now with EFI here we have that bunch........but the carbs are still plenty fast and there is something to be said for keeping things simple....

You might want to look up Beatrice Shilling.....who helped those spitfires get out of trouble with a simple fix...she evidently was some kind of woman for those times..

The great Smokey Yunick mentions this in his book. After a pilot used the water/alcohol injection on the plane or 'red lined' it, The engines had to be pulled and overhauled. Smokey talks his way into flying one that had been redlined, to see what would happen. Needless to say he was very impressed!