Control arms/coil overs - any difference?

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by skatinjay27

forgive me but how does a coil-over offer more shock dampening adj. over a conventional setup?
"why sacrifice ride quality" i just meant that for the rear suspension but to answer that question... $$$

unless theres something I'm missing all you gain by going coil-over is adj-ride height, less weight, and a more modern look bundled up in a neater smaller package.

I was just answering his question about people mentioning to stay away from QA1 and suggested maybe that why they said that... no need to be condescending.

I dont want you to take it as I'm bashing your product, but if the guys saying he wants to keep the budget down but looking for the best performance for the $$$ then why spend the extra for coilovers and LCA but have doubts on getting the spindles?

not ment to be condescending

you forgot to mention the damping adjustment option of QA1 coil over and im not saying the QA1 is the be all end all but it is a GREAT option for 450 bucks easi to install no modifications and they make a big differance. and hey i would do the spindles also if i had the 800 bucks and then brakes if you already have some??? like some one else said opinions,opinions everyone has them and thank god for that

[mrr1999]

Thanks, guys. really good insight about the pros and cons of going in several directions. You do bring up a good question, though: if the AFX spindles can fit in the budget, does it make a world of difference even on a car used mostly on the street? Lets say the control arms (uppers or uppers/lowers) and coil overs get installed. 12:1 steering box goes in. Maybe even do the g-mod, do $800 spindles make that much of a difference or is it a slight increase in performance?

I guess my research would be a whole lot easier if there were more opportunity to feel all of these parts in action. Since there isn't, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks again!

[skatinjay27]

Originally Posted by mrr1999

I guess my research would be a whole lot easier if there were more opportunity to feel all of these parts in action. Since there isn't, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks again!

actually you do...
theres a member on here that doesnt post much but hes here in vegas also and has the hotckis TVS kit and global west uppers and tylers AFX spindles in a 68 with a BB!
also theres todds car! but i wouldnt even go look at his car if you wanna keep you projects budget reasonable! lol

im sure both of them wouldnt mind taking ya for a ride!

[Blake Foster]

Also keep in mind if you do the Guilstrand mod you don't need the spindles and visa versa one or the other, will you notice it on a street droven car. ??????

[mrr1999]

Thanks, Blake. Regarding the spindles, that's the answer I was looking for. I am doing the g-mod either way, so that takes care of that. Even if it doesn't significantly help a street car, it only costs time (which I have).

[JRouche]

Originally Posted by mrr1999

Maybe even do the g-mod, do $800 spindles make that much of a difference or is it a slight increase in performance?

OUCH!!! I had NO idea they were that expensive, really, 800 dollar spindles. Ummm, in my humble and not rich opinion the answer to your question is no. I was thinking they were around 350-450 a set.

I would go the route you described, arms, coilover, G-mod and save the 800 bones for something that you will notice the performance on a street car. I had no idea you guys were plopping down that kind of money. Man, I gotta go back to the junk yard car forum LOL JR

[awr68]

Well to add to the confusion! ATS does offer the spindle in a stock height as well for those that already have the DSE coil over conversion or G-mod done to their frame. This allows you to use the better C5 bearing pack and Vette based brakes......

[speedjohnston]

I bought the AFX spindles and even though they cost a little more, they reduced the price of the equivelant brakes had I have kept the stock spindle.

[mrr1999]

Good point. I'll do the math between the corvette components vs the Wilwood setup I was looking at. If the combination cost is similar, then it's definitely a consideration. It's funny. I never figured choosing control arms and brakes would be so much of a process! Thanks again.

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I'd just go with a DSE subframe.

What Todd said. I know you said no auto-x for the car, but maybe in the future. In that case, why not be "ahead" of the game and get the DSE? It's got a "proven" track record, no pun intended.
I am not putting down Speed-Tech's stuff at all, they make some killer stuff as well. I've seen both,the DSE and Speed-Tech first hand in person and if I wasn't going DSE, Speed-Tech would be my first choice. (I actually may still go with the Speed-Tech sub frame and rear suspension.)
GOOD LUCK and let us know what you did chose.