crate camaro's?

[rwhite692]

Is there somewhere that one can read more details on this "replica law" and "rebody and restoration law"?

In order for a manufacturer to build and sell an entirely new turnkey car with a unique VIN that clearly does not meet today's federal safety standard, Wouldn't that car have to be considered a "Kit Car", like a Cobra replica, for example?

Also, I'd like to hear what GM has had to say about this (information traceable to a specific GM source) as opposed to people saying "what GM says".

[Ummgawa]

I was high on the waiting list at 2 locations that said they were going to sell the Vert Bodies (#2 in one place and #7 in another-Both companies you would be VERY familiar with) and both finally said "It ain't happening". I drove to Oklahoma and got my satisfaction. Are you saying that it is on again? As 69 put it, Lets see some pictures

[salescamaros]

Good old internet. I got the info from the house of representatives at http://uscode.house.gov.. You may have to look around for it but they are there. It is like a kit car. As far as the saftey laws, with it being a replica it falls under the year in which it looks like "69". As far as GM they will be next week and I can give you the final word on that. I'm working on pics for you all.

[TwinSting]

Are you guys still planning on reproducing the coupe bodies? If so when would they be available?

[TwinSting]

Salescameros,
Do you know the us code number for the "rebody and restoration law"? I tried to search but there were literally 7000+ items that came up under my serach. Can you narrow it down?

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by salescamaros

Good old internet. I got the info from the house of representatives at http://uscode.house.gov.. You may have to look around for it but they are there. It is like a kit car. As far as the saftey laws, with it being a replica it falls under the year in which it looks like "69". As far as GM they will be next week and I can give you the final word on that. I'm working on pics for you all.

Are you positive of that? Being as I've built two kit cars in California they do NOT fall under the year they look like. They fall under the drivetrain year and since I had a 71 big block in one they wanted EGR, closed air cleaner system, smog pump, etc. on a Cobra replica. Don't have to tell you what that would look like. I'd guess people at least in my state or any that follow Californias lead would need to have all the smog installed for the engine they use, even though it may not have to be run through the smog system again after it's registered. Unless they use a 65-earlier block.

Also, as you haven't addressed it on this or the other board I saw you on, what is the fit and finish like? It looked very bad at SEMA. I would have not shown the car together as it would have embarrassed me. I'm wondering if they've come up with a fix for that or not.

Jody

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by salescamaros

Good old internet. I got the info from the house of representatives at http://uscode.house.gov.. You may have to look around for it but they are there. It is like a kit car. As far as the saftey laws, with it being a replica it falls under the year in which it looks like "69". As far as GM they will be next week and I can give you the final word on that. I'm working on pics for you all.

you need to point the reg out if you are going to cite it for justification of swapping vins. Should be in Title 49 and after searching for an hour, I found nothing.

[salescamaros]

The info you need for the VIN tag is "cite" 18 USC Sec.511. You have to read it over more to understand the way the law is written. Go figure. I will dig out the other law first chance I get. Also there is a replica law that states if it a "kit car" it does not follow the same emission requirements. I will give you that "cite" too.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by salescamaros

The info you need for the VIN tag is "cite" 18 USC Sec.511. You have to read it over more to understand the way the law is written. Go figure. I will dig out the other law first chance I get. Also there is a replica law that states if it a "kit car" it does not follow the same emission requirements. I will give you that "cite" too.

I've built two kit cars and at least in California they go by the year of the engine, not the car it replicates. Anything 66-later here will require some amount of smog equipment.

Jody

[Musclerodz]

That helped, thank you. But there is still unanswered questions. That law mainly covers salvage operations but does mention repair and restorations. But it also reverts back to state law which will take precedence, as in Jody's point on smog equipment requirements for CA. This is taken right from the reg, " a person who repairs such vehicle or part, if the removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration is reasonably necessary for the repair". What is reasonable?

Mike