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Old 05-24-2007, 12:28 AM
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what were you saying about no torque?

and that particular motor isn't anything special. ive seen some of these things making 1000+ hp with well over 800 ft lbs.


and to the question earlier: it's an inline 6 out of a supra.
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:52 AM
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I've got a 2JZGE in my IS300. That engine doesn't belong in an american car, neat or not. With that mentality, why don't we just drop S54 BMW motors into everything and call it a day. They already have individual throttle bodies, make 300+hp N/A and drive like all hell.

Why do people want a torque curve that looks like a cheerleaders chest?

I don't know about you guys, but I enjoy losing traction in every single gear at any speed. It just seems manly.

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Old 05-24-2007, 07:03 AM
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Speakin' of BMW motors in everything - well sort of...
In the late 90s, I was at Rolls Royce facility in England on a photoshoot for the Franklin Mint. We were taking photographs and doing sketches to document the new rolls royce cars there. Rolls Royce was having issues with trying to get their engines to run right to comply with emissions standards. Basically they couldn't get 'em to run right. So guess what was under the big plastic beauty cover on both the Bentleys and Rolls Royces? BMW engines LOL! BMW makes great engines but just thought that that was kinda funny. BMW Arnage??? LOL!
Anyways, we're all going to like and dislike different things and that's a good thing. That way we don't see all the same stuff all the time. I like to see stuff like a Supra motor in a Camaro because those are the kind of things that SHAKE IT UP! Get people thinkin' out of the box.
When I went to see the Tokyo Drift movie - yeah I saw it and I own it and like watchin' it - I admit it. I didn't like it at first when I heard they put a Skyline engine in it but once I saw it and seen it run and why they did it in the "story" I was alright with it.
Just don't be afraid to think out of the box - even a little because that's what will set you apart from every other guy.
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what were you saying about no torque?

and that particular motor isn't anything special. ive seen some of these things making 1000+ hp with well over 800 ft lbs.


and to the question earlier: it's an inline 6 out of a supra.
I was saying it doesn't make dick for torque till nearly 5k rpm... That puny 530rwhp car has what, a single 67 on it? Yeah cause thats gonna react the same as a T6 88 I have plenty of friends with 1000rwhp supras and SC300's with 2jz swaps. They are horrid from a dig and I personally hate driving them around. Good highway car where you can roll from 5k rpm, but other than that terrible.

I prefer my cars to make 500+ ft/lbs from 2k rpm on up, makes it much nicer to drive around town.



So yeah... no torque.

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Old 05-24-2007, 09:54 PM
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Thinking outside the box or not, why put a motor that has such a steep torque curve in a relatively heavy car?

It'd be a totally different story if the Camaros weighed 2500lbs.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:28 AM
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I've been in and seen plenty of Supras that have no problems from a dig. Besides it depends how you wanna look at it - I guess you could have an easier time launching the Supra that supposedly doesn't come out hard "on a dig" or you can spin your tires not hooking for the first 2 gears in a Viper? LOL! My point was that someone was doing something different and I thought it was cool.
As far as a Camaro being heavy? 1st gen Camaros barely break the 3000 lb. mark? Besides a Supra weighs in at a hefty 3600 lbs. all day!
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We can argue about this all day long but we all know its cool.... nothing is lamer an a typical small block. That is pure boring.... For some reason, alot of people these days think that everything has to have a V-8 in order to be a cool hot rod which is absolutely wrong. Knuckledraggers have been modifying 4 and 6 cylinders for ever.... I mean seriously, how cool would an early stroked out 235 6 cylinder with a turbo be...? Very cool!
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There was a guy that used to post on LS1.com back in the day called Voodoo Childe that was dropping a forced-induction big-inch Hemi into a MkIV Supra. Last I heard of the project the car got twisted all to hell because of the torque he was putting out.

As for the 2JZ in a 1st-gen...eh. It could be worse. It'll just be fun and a little sad to see a Camaro running 12's at 140+.
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well me being more domestic here if i was going to build a type - Muscle Ricer - i would at least put a domestis type motor

I have read alot on the Ecotec 4cyl and with some small changes will pull over 500 HP and with more changes will pull 1200 HP or more
So i have been kicking the idea of doing a vega or monza build with a killer 4cyl, but that is just me being more loyal to domestic and not cross breeding with imports just too much Tokyo Drift for me
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well me being more domestic here if i was going to build a type - Muscle Ricer - i would at least put a domestis type motor

I have read alot on the Ecotec 4cyl and with some small changes will pull over 500 HP and with more changes will pull 1200 HP or more
So i have been kicking the idea of doing a vega or monza build with a killer 4cyl, but that is just me being more loyal to domestic and not cross breeding with imports just too much Tokyo Drift for me
Interesting! I have though about building my wife a SVO Mustang with one of those newer Ford DOHC 4 cyl engines. Then again, doesn't Ford share that engine with Mazda... see, things get so complicated these days!

As for the Supra powered Camaro, I kind of like it. Doesn't look like he is going for the drift-car style as the engine compartment is way too clean looking for a car you are going to put through all that drifting stuff.

How about a turbo Sprint-6? You know, one of those Pontiac OHC engines?

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