Shooting in Connecticut

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Sieg

I'm trying to stay neutral on this but there's so many skewed details and now the incident has pretty much dropped off the radar and momentum has switched to banning efforts. Perfect storm?

anything to rile the masses. Pearl Harbor, World trade, Fiscal cliff....who knows what Governments are capable of? I think if we all put the glasses on we wouldn't like it.

Like Pete from across the pond says. Question everything.

[parsonsj]

[nicks67ca]

Originally Posted by Sieg

I was very surprised there was not one survivor or victim that was transported and later died in a hospital.

There was 2 that died at the hospital. I know the nurse that was on call at the ER when they arrived.

Originally Posted by Sieg

I can't recall seeing any Shady Hook crime scene photo's?

Its an active investigation I'm not sure that is commonly released?

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

First reports by the Sargent on scene said that the AR was found in the trunk. Then later reports stated the AR was found inside along with 4 hand guns. How does a Sargent mistake this detail?

600 Kids, Hundreds more parents, police, paramedics, and other first responder one could only guess it was pure chaos there. There was such a demand for information that to much detail was given to fast. I would also bet that they limited the scene exposure due to its obvious emotional impact on people.

Its easy to draw these conspiracy lines when you're outside the community but when its your community and the names and faces are people you know its really hard to say they are "conspiring" unless the last 30 years was all an act.

Pass me the Reynolds Wrap.

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^ totally agree with that!

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by nicks67ca

There was 2 that died at the hospital. I know the nurse that was on call at the ER when they arrived.

Its an active investigation I'm not sure that is commonly released?
Its easy to draw these conspiracy lines when you're outside the community but when its your community and the names and faces are people you know its really hard to say they are "conspiring" unless the last 30 years was all an act.

Pass me the Reynolds Wrap.

Thanks for the information and condolences. I live only a few miles from the Kip Kinkle/Thurston HS shooting and understand the community impact. I've been on a police ride along that involved a potential suicidal shooter and SWAT team deployment so I have a little insight on that front. I'm not trying to be insensitive in any way. As noted I try to stay neutral but the media bias and theatrics makes it tough some times.

[nicks67ca]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Thanks for the information and condolences. I live only a few miles from the Kip Kinkle/Thurston HS shooting and understand the community impact. I've been on a police ride along that involved a potential suicidal shooter and SWAT team deployment so I have a little insight on that front. I'm not trying to be insensitive in any way. As noted I try to stay neutral but the media bias and theatrics makes it tough some times.

Thanks and I didn't take it as being insensitive.
This event like most recent events are being exploited for all its worth. The shock factor is high and fresh in our minds, and the media is in the middle looking for page visits and likes. There is no "one answer / action" fixes all.

[nicks67ca]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I was at the Seattle PD range today -- this is also a members only gun store. They sold out of 80 AR-15 style rifles they had in stock in 3 days after the talking heads on tv blabbered on about banning assault style rifles. There is ONE hanging on the wall -- which is now "UP FOR BID" -- you must submit a bid and the highest bidder will be the purchaser. This is the only one left for sale. Bidding started at $950

They have a ONE limit on magazines (they are not CLIPS as commonly called but that's just a misuse of a term that people don't understand and is now common practice) -- they have sold out of most and were told by the suppliers that they are not taking any more orders.

They are also sold out of .223 rounds

As one who enjoys this hobby this makes it really hard to participate when its a $1/round online now.....

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by nicks67ca

As one who enjoys this hobby this makes it really hard to participate when its a $1/round online now.....

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/673...gressive-press

Works for me in four calibers anyway.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by nicks67ca

As one who enjoys this hobby this makes it really hard to participate when its a $1/round online now.....

That's why I hedge ammo when it's cheap. An average target outing we go through at least 600-700 rounds depending on how many people want to try the different firearms. .30 cents a round if you buy in bulk.

I understand the loss but you have to admit law spokesman and the media has totally fowled the situation up bad.

[nicks67ca]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

That's why I hedge ammo when it's cheap. An average target outing we go through at least 600-700 rounds depending on how many people want to try the different firearms. .30 cents a round if you buy in bulk.

I understand the loss but you have to admit law spokesman and the media has totally fowled the situation up bad.

I hedged too but I let it slide and got to the point where i don't want to dip into the reserves to go play.

Yes I agree I think there was unneeded pressure and an expectation of live updates which lead to some of the misinformation. On the flip side how bad would the tin foil theories be if there was no communication other than "its an active case"?