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09-11-2020, 06:29 AM
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And the bear took one look at the size of these photos and said "These are just right!"
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09-11-2020, 06:29 AM
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Mark, in few of your earlier posts you show that you're using IImuch vents, one for the diff and one for the fuel tank. It looks like the Rick's tank has provisions for a rear/ top fitting. Is that the only vent you're using? TIA. Let me re-phrase the question, is the rear tank port the only one you're using?
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09-11-2020, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by F'in mine
Mark, in few of your earlier posts you show that you're using IImuch vents, one for the diff and one for the fuel tank. It looks like the Rick's tank has provisions for a rear/ top fitting. Is that the only vent you're using? TIA. Let me re-phrase the question, is the rear tank port the only one you're using?
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Originally Posted by F'in mine
Mark, in few of your earlier posts you show that you're using IImuch vents, one for the diff and one for the fuel tank. It looks like the Rick's tank has provisions for a rear/ top fitting. Is that the only vent you're using? TIA. Let me re-phrase the question, is the rear tank port the only one you're using?
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The Ricks tank has a vent system inside the tank to help. We also add a fitting to the filler neck to help prevent fuel from pushing out of the tank. With all of that said if you 100% fill the tank on a hot day then park the car in the hot sun it might puke over out the 2 Much canister.
The issue is the Ricks tanks and most aftermarket tanks do not have room for expansion.
This one of the only issues we had with Charlies new Riv.
The 2 Much canisters do a great job with fuel vapors but no pure fuel.
I may add an expansion tank to the project before the 2 Much canister to keep raw fuel out of it.
Thanks for the comment I almost forgot about that.
Mark
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03-10-2021, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Stielow
The Ricks tank has a vent system inside the tank to help. We also add a fitting to the filler neck to help prevent fuel from pushing out of the tank. With all of that said if you 100% fill the tank on a hot day then park the car in the hot sun it might puke over out the 2 Much canister.
The issue is the Ricks tanks and most aftermarket tanks do not have room for expansion.
This one of the only issues we had with Charlies new Riv.
The 2 Much canisters do a great job with fuel vapors but no pure fuel.
I may add an expansion tank to the project before the 2 Much canister to keep raw fuel out of it.
Thanks for the comment I almost forgot about that.
Mark
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I’m going to humbly disagree with Mark. The older version of the Rick’s tank uses an internal manifold/tube which may cause the tank to pressurize and push liquid fuel out of the vent port when full . The internal vent tube seems to act like a straw that can submerge the vent port in fuel when the tank is full. Newer Rick’s tanks appear to have abandoned the internal manifold and switched to a two port design. A port on the filler neck and one strategically placed on the tank running to a T and then to the VSB or VSR has worked well for many II MUCH customers even in road race applications.
The Riveria also had the internal manifold design, and overflowed as I predicted in conversation with Sled Alley after I saw a picture of the tank on the build thread.
If you scroll to @motobrewmaster ‘s post in this thread you can see one of the older Rick’s tanks modified as described — he plugged the original port location on the front of the tank and added three new ports. Three is probably overkill but certainly can’t hurt.
https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...37#post1353237
That said, Mark took a sledgehammer to the problem and is happy with how things are working for him. I’m happy to continue this discussion with anybody that is interested privately.
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03-10-2021, 08:19 PM
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Agree. On my older ricks tank with the tube I had overflowing issues and my overflow would hose fuel. With my new ricks tank and 10 or 11 gallons of gas I have zero issues
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I’m going to humbly disagree with Mark. The older version of the Rick’s tank uses an internal manifold/tube which may cause the tank to pressurize and push liquid fuel out of the vent port when full . The internal vent tube seems to act like a straw that can submerge the vent port in fuel when the tank is full. Newer Rick’s tanks appear to have abandoned the internal manifold and switched to a two port design. A port on the filler neck and one strategically placed on the tank running to a T and then to the VSB or VSR has worked well for many II MUCH customers even in road race applications.
The Riveria also had the internal manifold design, and overflowed as I predicted in conversation with Sled Alley after I saw a picture of the tank on the build thread.
If you scroll to @motobrewmaster ‘s post in this thread you can see one of the older Rick’s tanks modified as described — he plugged the original port location on the front of the tank and added three new ports. Three is probably overkill but certainly can’t hurt.
https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...37#post1353237
That said, Mark took a sledgehammer to the problem and is happy with how things are working for him. I’m happy to continue this discussion with anybody that is interested privately.
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09-13-2020, 05:25 AM
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Can you remind us, are you using something like Gates PowerGrip heatshrink for your hose claps?
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Can you remind us, are you using something like Gates PowerGrip heatshrink for your hose claps?
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For the stuff that needs service it is the Gate Power Grip clamps. For hoses that need to be serviced an regular worm gear hose clamp with heat shrink tubing over the strap to make it black. Keeps things clean looking.
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Mark,
I really like the clean look of the rear of the car.
Could you explain your rear spoiler choice (instead of say an adjustable rear wing) and how it works on track?
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09-14-2020, 07:32 AM
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For the stuff that needs service it is the Gate Power Grip clamps. For hoses that need to be serviced an regular worm gear hose clamp with heat shrink tubing over the strap to make it black. Keeps things clean looking.
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