Thunderhill - NorCal Shelby Spring event

[Sieg]

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.........

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.........

That's Sieg material rt there!!

[patoke]

Here are two good videos to watch to compare a good line and a GW line (I.e not using the whole track ) in the same car. There is a six second difference in lap times. Also, it should be a good reality check for those who say, we are slow because we drive big old steel bodies cars versus those "modern cars". They ran a 1:54 in a 1969 camaro. We ran a 1:55 in a 700+hp horsepower 2006 z06. They have slicks on this camaro I believe, but regardless it's fast!! Dave Brown is a wheel man for sure but here's proof old cars can go fast too!!!

Therefore, its time to step up the game a little for all of us

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46Du0OtEK44

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=email&v=yT7AADEXgGE

[Track Junky]

I know both Dave and Carl. I will see them on the 24th at T-Hill and be running with them in the NASA Time Trial group. They run the unlimited class (TTU). I'll be running TT1. Carl Chicca owns the car but Dave Brown drives it also. Car is running a fiberglass front clip and doors, Hoosier R6's, and about 620 to the rear wheels. Stock front subframe with Global West arms and a Lateral Dynamics 3 link in the rear. Add Dave Brown to that equation and yes......that equals fast!!

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

I know both Dave and Carl. I will see them on the 24th at T-Hill and be running with them in the NASA Time Trial group. They run the unlimited class (TTU). I'll be running TT1. Carl Chicca owns the car but Dave Brown drives it also. Car is running a fiberglass front clip and doors, Hoosier R6's, and about 620 to the rear wheels. Stock front subframe with Global West arms and a Lateral Dynamics 3 link in the rear. Add Dave Brown to that equation and yes......that equals fast!!

Karl & Dave are nice guys and very welcoming and public friendly in their pro-team type pits.

For the record, the previous 387 cubic inch 23 degree dry dump SBC was never near 620 to the wheels when Dave put down the TT track record. It was closer to 620 to the crank.

The current carbed 415 cubic inch LS motor is something just over 600 hp as well.

[Track Junky]

Thanks Dave. Never asked but went by the dyno sheet on Lifes Good Racing website. Also was going by how hard Dave was pulling away form me in the straight coming out of 15 at T-Hill last year.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Thanks Dave. Never asked but went by the dyno sheet on Lifes Good Racing website. Also was going by how hard Dave was pulling away form me in the straight coming out of 15 at T-Hill last year.

I'm old and can probably physically RUN away from a car on jack stands...


Just sayin'.... <grin>

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I'm old and can probably physically RUN away from a car on jack stands...


Just sayin'.... <grin>

Don't think we won't make you prove that.

[Vegas69]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Thanks Dave. Never asked but went by the dyno sheet on Lifes Good Racing website. Also was going by how hard Dave was pulling away form me in the straight coming out of 15 at T-Hill last year.

He probably didn't have his engine built by Darryl, and his other brother Darryl.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by patoke

Here are two good videos to watch to compare a good line and a GW line (I.e not using the whole track ) in the same car. There is a six second difference in lap times. Also, it should be a good reality check for those who say, we are slow because we drive big old steel bodies cars versus those "modern cars". They ran a 1:54 in a 1969 camaro. We ran a 1:55 in a 700+hp horsepower 2006 z06. They have slicks on this camaro I believe, but regardless it's fast!! Dave Brown is a wheel man for sure but here's proof old cars can go fast too!!!

Therefore, its time to step up the game a little for all of us

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46Du0OtEK44

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=email&v=yT7AADEXgGE

So here's what I really see from watching the 1:54...


He's way left and riding the inside line in turn 2

He's way right and riding the line all the way around in turn 3

He's running the by-pass -- good for 2 or 3 seconds faster than the 16 turn Cyclone we run.

He's riding the right hand line in turn 5...

He doesn't late brake - late apex turn 6... rather - he starts that turn early and jumps on throttle mid corner while rolling straight to the far side at exit

Ditto this same early turn in at T9 which to me is an attempt to straighten out this turn to hit the exit almost straight as he crests it.

It also appears an early turn in at T10.


So "EARLY" to me is that he's not late braking and making a big ass turn... rather he's attempting to just roll thru the turns making 'em rounder where he's very fast getting back into the throttle.


I'm trying to LEARN from this line so help me here if I've got it all wrong!