LSA Crate engine

[Sparks67]

Originally Posted by Flash68

I can't believe anyone would take a 12.5:1 roller 383 and replace it with an LS motor.

Well, I had 612 hp with 520lbs torque with the 383, but it ran Turbo Blue. Now, I have an LS3 418 around 700 hp with 800 ft/lbs torque and I run 93 octane. Well, those dyno numbers are with the Harrop, but switching to the LS9 Blower with 11 rib pulley. So, we have to see.

[Sparks67]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Take a deep breath Jeff. Relax, ok?

Where exactly did we come up with a 15k limit for the OP? Tommycomfort (great guy) did a detailed costing of a L92 install and it came to 14k and he did the work himself.

My comment was simply to point out the delta is not as drastic as you made it out to be.

Don't you even read on what people (Bsinclair) post in the thread...

Originally Posted by Bsinclair

the price you are seeing probably doesn't include the cost of the accessory drive,heat exchanger water pump and the heat exchanger if its the $12000 unit. figure adding another 2-3k on top of that for a front runner system and needed components.

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

My comment was simply to point out the delta is not as drastic as you made it out to be.

So, where is your LSA engine or LS engine with a supercharger? Unless you have built one for your car, which I am in the process of doing for mine. I just want to be sure that seankc31 knows the costs that are involved.


Jeff

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Sparks67

Don't you even read on what people (Bsinclair) post in the thread...





So, where is your LSA engine or LS engine with a supercharger? Unless you have built one for your car, which I am in the process of doing for mine. I just want to be sure that seankc31 knows the costs that are involved.


Jeff

My customer and I are about to find out what it costs. We bought a low mile LS3 with lingenfelter top end on it about a year ago for a Camaro in the shop and just bought an LSA super charger kit this week for it. So the LS3 is coming apart for new rods, piston, cam, springs, valves, etc. Block is the later LS3 casting so i am hoping the oil squirter ports are already machined or I will be looking into having it done. Also probably looking into a new clutch as well. PRC rad will go away and order up an autorad unit in its place.

[ironworks]

I can never under stand why things on the internet have to be such a pissing contest. It really simple.

LSA engine - 19260164 - 11465.00 - Dual disc clutch unit
Harness - 19259293 - 1492.05
Coolant pump - 20945282 - 261.00
LSA bracket system w/o AC - 19243525 - 950.00
ZL1 fuel pump - 19260557 -

The you can bolt some kind of cooler to the front of your core support and your ready to go.

[Sparks67]

Originally Posted by Musclerodz

My customer and I are about to find out what it costs. We bought a low mile LS3 with lingenfelter top end on it about a year ago for a Camaro in the shop and just bought an LSA super charger kit this week for it. So the LS3 is coming apart for new rods, piston, cam, springs, valves, etc. Block is the later LS3 casting so i am hoping the oil squirter ports are already machined or I will be looking into having it done. Also probably looking into a new clutch as well. PRC rad will go away and order up an autorad unit in its place.

The oil squirter have to be machined, if you use the Katech Oil Squirters. Brian Thomson machines them a bit different, but here is an article on it.
http://www.vetteweb.com/tech/vemp_12.../photo_04.html

Autorad works, but you have to make a custom hood latch for it. According to Jim at Autorad, my factory hood latch would clear the intercooler. Then I got a call from Matt at Sled Alley called and he have to make a custom hood latch similar to Mayhem. The center support won't clear the intercooler. Camaro XV center support also was modified to clear the intercooler with the Dewitt radiator. Actually, all of Stielow's builds had a custom hood latch. (Jackass, Red Devil, Mayhem, and Camaro XV). The latch is not that difficult, but you do have to modify the center support to make it work.

I read what Sean had posted in his thread.

Originally Posted by seankc31

So now I'm considering selling my engine and transmission...to upgrade to an LS motor... I been peaking at the LSA/4L85E combo offered on JEGs also the LS3 combo as well...would this combo work for my 68 camaro without any fab work...opinions please i would like to stay around 600hp

The problem is that not all the aftermarket parts fit as planned. Yes, if you plan to build a supercharged engine, then you must fabricate parts for the intended application. So Sean see if there is a shop that has done this type of work in Hawaii. Another option Sean is to keep your big block and build a 496 with different cam.


Jeff

[214Chevy]

Not bragging, nor trying to start an argument, but my engine with Kenne Bell 3.6 supercharger will be near $30k once all buttoned up. The shortblock alone is $10k. Blower was $7500. $4k for a set of heads. There's $21.5 right there. By the time I add in a $2k+ Autorad, $1k clutch, $2k accesory drive, $1500 harness, valve covers, tuning, plug wires and coils, ARP bolts throught, nice Russell fittings, tuning and install, etc....you can see where I'm going, huh? And my car is just a street car. It will see no parts of a track ever. I'm just not a track guy....sorry. But, anyway, I can cut about $4500 off of that budget if I go with a resleeved GM LS7 block and not the RHS, but a supercharged motor isn't cheap buy any means or no stretch of the imagination. Trust and believe, I've thought about it and rethought about it daily. Still might go N/A becuz of the total price. I have a buddy of mine in Louisiana that's ready to buy my Kenne Bell if I decide to not do the supercharged engine. I'm still weighing my options as we speak. But, if I go N/A, I've got a BIG surprise for you guys.

[seankc31]

Originally Posted by 214Chevelle

Not bragging, nor trying to start an argument, but my engine with Kenne Bell 3.6 supercharger will be near $30k once all buttoned up. The shortblock alone is $10k. Blower was $7500. $4k for a set of heads. There's $21.5 right there. By the time I add in a $2k+ Autorad, $1k clutch, $2k accesory drive, $1500 harness, valve covers, tuning, plug wires and coils, ARP bolts throught, nice Russell fittings, tuning and install, etc....you can see where I'm going, huh? And my car is just a street car. It will see no parts of a track ever. I'm just not a track guy....sorry. But, anyway, I can cut about $4500 off of that budget if I go with a resleeved GM LS7 block and not the RHS, but a supercharged motor isn't cheap buy any means or no stretch of the imagination. Trust and believe, I've thought about it and rethought about it daily. Still might go N/A becuz of the total price. I have a buddy of mine in Louisiana that's ready to buy my Kenne Bell if I decide to not do the supercharged engine. I'm still weighing my options as we speak. But, if I go N/A, I've got a BIG surprise for you guys.

I got the same feeling you got and now I'm questioning weather I really can afford it the LSA/4L85E... I been thinking bout going just with a normal LS3 setup but it isn't really what I want and I think it will still be over 15k to do that install...Why did i pick such an expensive hobby

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by seankc31

...Why did i pick such an expensive hobby

Ohhh brother, you have no earthly idea.

[renegade6]

Originally Posted by seankc31

Why did i pick such an expensive hobby

It's an incurable sickness.

[fishface]

Originally Posted by renegade6

It's an incurable sickness.

Lol! Don't I know it. Over $40k in mine so far and havent scratched the surface of what I want to do. Anyway, as someone once said, in the big scheme of things we are only here a short time. So if it makes our little worlds go around and makes us happy, its not wrong.