Mustang GT500 vs Camaro SS

[DrewskiSS]

what do you guys think? they cost about the same right now (used gt500). what are your oppinions?

what do you think a 2007 gt500 would cost in 2 years?

[dj3]

Originally Posted by DrewskiSS

what do you guys think? they cost about the same right now (used gt500). what are your oppinions?

what do you think a 2007 gt500 would cost in 2 years?

Get the GT500, it will crush the new Camaro in performance and they will make alot more Camaros than Shelbys.

[CreepinDeth]

Originally Posted by dj3

Get the GT500, it will crush the new Camaro in performance

Not quite.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

But in regards to collectivity, the Shelby is obviously going to be better.
Personally you should consider a Roush Stage III before you get a GT500.
The Mustang is a fat pig. It's not that great in performance.
It gets its ass whipped by every Chevy in it's price bracket.

If you want to see how the overpriced $86,000 GT500KR does, watch the $9,000 cheaper Z06 beat the snot out of that too.

[dj3]

Originally Posted by CreepinDeth

Not quite.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

But in regards to collectivity, the Shelby is obviously going to be better.
Personally you should consider a Roush Stage III before you get a GT500.
The Mustang is a fat pig. It's not that great in performance.
It gets its ass whipped by every Chevy in it's price bracket.

If you want to see how the overpriced $86,000 GT500KR does, watch the $9,000 cheaper Z06 beat the snot out of that too.

Hes not talking about buying a new Shelby and certainly not the overpriced KR. An 2007 Shelby GT500 can be bought in the low 30,s with low miles on it as compared to a 40K Camaro. Its comparing new to used, but with a blower swap the GT500 can put down 750HP to the wheels and that's something your not doing in the new Camaro.

So for under 40K you can get a 2007 GT500 that will runs 10's and you dont think that's a great bang for the buck. The Roush cant even touch those kind of numbers, but it will go through the turns better.

The Camaro is also a big fat pig.

[BBC69Camaro]

Originally Posted by dj3

An 2007 Shelby GT500 can be bought in the low 30,s with low miles on it as compared to a 40K Camaro. Its comparing new to used, but with a blower swap the GT500 can put down 750HP to the wheels and that's something your not doing in the new Camaro.

Comparing new to used it kind of silly. There are also now bolt on supercharger kits for the 2010 Camaro, so comparing a used Mustang with a blower to a new Camaro w/o is certainly not an apples to apples comparison.

And when the Z/28 comes out the gap will just get wider.

Originally Posted by dj3

The Camaro is also a big fat pig.

Well it still runs circles around a Mustang in terms of braking and cornering, so its less fat

[dj3]

Originally Posted by BBC69Camaro

Comparing new to used it kind of silly. There are also now bolt on supercharger kits for the 2010 Camaro, so comparing a used Mustang with a blower to a new Camaro w/o is certainly not an apples to apples comparison.

And when the Z/28 comes out the gap will just get wider.



Well it still runs circles around a Mustang in terms of braking and cornering, so its less fat

I agree its not fair to compare new to used, but that is the choices the op is looking at. My point with the GT500 is that its fully forged and capable of much more power than the new camaro even with a blower on it. I'm sure the Z28 will changes things, but given the current choices I would take a slightly used GT500 that has more straight line potential over the Camaro and will hold its value better.

[JohnnyGMachine]

Well it still runs circles around a Mustang in terms of braking and cornering, so its less fat [/QUOTE]

The new Camaro isn't running circles around a GT500. Just because it has IRS doesn't automatically make it handle better than the Mustang with it's solid rear axle. Currently the new 2010+ Mustang GT (not the GT500) is superior to the new Camaro SS in both handling AND braking. Again this is just the GT we're talking about. I think the GT500s are comparable if not exactly the same as the SS since the GT500s are heavy too. Matter of fact according to Road and Track test Data the 2010 Mustang GT scores better in the slalom than both the GT500 and the SS. Be interesting to see how much better the GT500 is in 2011 when it debuts with it's all aluminum block!

Road and Track test data:

2010 Camaro SS
Braking from 60 mph, ft: 121 ft.
Braking from 80 mph, ft: 212 ft.
Skidpad, g: 0.89 g
Slalom, mph: 66.4 mph

2010 Mustang GT
Braking from 60 mph, ft: 115 ft.
Braking from 80 mph, ft: 202 ft.
Skidpad, g: 0.93 g
Slalom, mph: 69.1 mph

I don't have numbers on the 2007 GT500 handy but it's very close to the SS. I believe the 2010 GT500 is improved over the 2007 though.
Nice thing about the supercharged cammer Mustangs from Ford you're a pulley and a tune away from adding some serious power to the wheels to give you an edge atleast in a straight line. I think the '07 GT500 and SS Camaro would be comparably close in performance and it will just ultimately come down to driving both and figuring out what you like better for YOU.

[CreepinDeth]

Originally Posted by dj3

The Camaro is also a big fat pig.

Apparently you're not aware that the GT500 is heavier. Like stated before too, the Camaro out handles it too.
The GT500 weighs as much as midsize 4x4 SUV's. Probably why Ford is scared to use Nurburgring to test their cars.

Want a REAL GOOD LAUGH ??? Watch the $82,000 GT500KR get beat to crap by the $76,000 Z06.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIPBP-9TUnQ I'm sure the 800lb weight difference played a HUGE factor.

Originally Posted by astross89

not an expert, but more apples to apples would be a new 30,000 camaro to a new 30,000 mustang. who would win that?

If it's a 2010, the Camaro SS will beat the crap out of the Mustang GT.
If it's a 2011 , that's a much better performance comparison. Mustang finally got some good powerplants.

However as you can see in the Motortrend video I posted, the $31,000 SS was only .1 seconds slower then the $55,000 Mustang GT500.

Either way, IMHO the Camaro is the better bang for the buck brand new.
If you want used, the GT500 will be faster barely in a straight line.....but not by a whole lot.

I do however think Ford hit a homerun in 2010's body style and the 2011 powertrains finally.
I think the 2007's are not as attractive at all , but that's just me. I think they are a big waste of money.

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2

So let me get this straigt.. the GT500 costs the same as a Camaro SS if you get a USED GT500



nothing like a apples to radish comparison...

I was amused as well.

Originally Posted by 509Chevelle

Ace....wassup buddy What's been going on? Have you put that rear end in yet?

Nah brother, still sitting here.

I have my 78 Camaro I have been completely rewiring with an AAW Hwy 22 kit.
I'm putting the interior in this week and I HOPE to have the 442 in my garage
by this weekend or next getting that rear end in.

[67Fastback]

I love how people like to compare the "KR" just to bloat the price, when the base GT500 is basically the same car but cheaper. The KR gets like 40hp - big deal. Compare the GT500 to the same Z06 and the results will be almost identical to the KR - now your talking about a $47ishk GT500 vs. a $76k Z06. Who's complaining about apples to oranges??

Motortrend = lol

How about we deal with published facts when it comes to weight.

Camaro
3750 / 1705 - LT automatic
3741 / 1700 - LT manual
3769 / 1713 - LS automatic
3780 / 1718 - LS manual
3913 / 1779 - SS automatic
3860 / 1755 - SS manual

GT500
3820 (This is the iron-block version, 2011 gets aluminum)

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by CreepinDeth

Not quite.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

But in regards to collectivity, the Shelby is obviously going to be better.
Personally you should consider a Roush Stage III before you get a GT500.
The Mustang is a fat pig. It's not that great in performance.
It gets its ass whipped by every Chevy in it's price bracket.

If you want to see how the overpriced $86,000 GT500KR does, watch the $9,000 cheaper Z06 beat the snot out of that too.

Ace....wassup buddy What's been going on? Have you put that rear end in yet?