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Old 03-21-2010, 09:10 AM
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I've seen this in person and it's impressive to say the least.

I would imagine that a DIYer could put this together in short order. I say that because I watched a very experienced welder at Ironworks put it together. I couldn't believe how quickly he had gotten it done!

John

Maybe you should come up and build one. That would be a good test.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:11 AM
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Here is a response I put over on Tri-5.

Hay Guys my name is Rodger and it is nice to see that your looking at things with such analyzing eyes. Some of the ideas your guys are drawing from are correct and some are not exactly correct. This frame idea has been in the market place for years, there is nothing new about the ideas were are incorporating into this chassis. TCI has been welding 4 rails togther for years. We started a few years ago building some frames for some different pickups this way, 55-59 and Ford unibody stuff. They went togther pretty easybut we would just box the rails with nominal stock and cut out the profile of the bend.

Well fast forward a few years, I have a customer that owns and aerospace company in Santa Barbara that opened my eyes to Solidworks some 3-4 years ago, he is a degreeed engineer. We started talking about this frame idea about 2 years ago when another degreed engineer wanted me to build some thing stronger then what was currently available. Well we are now cutting out chassis number 3 last week that is currently getting assembled for the 2011 Goodguys giveaway car, a 1955 Chevy Convertible, This is official but has not been announced publicly yet, (Until Now).

Well I have been skeptical the whole way through that I could never sell a DO-IT-YOURSELF chassis that could be built without issue at someones home in there garage. So Last week after having my 9 dollar an hour 19 year old trainiee put one together unassited without printed instruction other then this part goes her and this one goes here and all tabs should slip togther, puts one to togther and TIG welds the entire chassis. I wanted to check the position of the body mounts, because they are located in the frame rails, so no guessing. After he was done I measured square from the tops of the frame kick ups with a precision leveling tool to the very top of the upper control arm mounts and it was less the 1/32 out of square, thats better then factory. The OD width measurement is 41" all the way to the front where it tapers. I had not installed the core support mount yet or rackmounts or the frame center section or the rear suspension crossmembers.

So I posted a teaser thread on Lateral-g.net ( I spend alot of time on Lat-g and have quite a few friends over there ) to see about finding a few very talents garage builders and a few other shops that would be interested in this chassis to test 3-5 of these for a build and somebody posted the chassis over here. I was not trying to make a formal announcement about the release of the product yet, gosh I don't have formal pricing or a firm ball park. I just wants some guinea pigs to try the frame.

So now for the Specs. The chassis is made with .125 P&O steel. It has an option to have .188 main plate in the chassis that goes front to rear. The main plate being the inside of the rear main rails which connects to the outside of the front suspension rails. It is one continuous plate. The chassis pictured is totally .125 except for the front crossmembers that are .25. but boxed with .125. The front suspension is New C6 vette suspension, The rear will be a FAB 9 housing from Alston. The center section will be a combination of bent tube and flat plate structure. I want to be able to run an X pipe in the chassis. The chassis will be available in 2 ride height .4.625 and 5.375. These ride heights are designed for a 335/30/20 rear tire and 265/35/19. The engine mounts I'm still working on, I like lots of options and being able to place the engine where "I" want not where some manufacturer thinks it should be.

The chassis you seen pictured will be a roller at the Goodguys Del Mar show in our booth as a roller and have most everything installed on the chassis for that event. I was hoping to have the 2011 Goodguys giveaway 1955 Chevy convertible body installed on this chassis for the event, but we will not get the body until May 1st 2010.

There are quite a few pics of this chassis on my website, down towards the bottom. I will be posting more and we finalize a production version of the chassis. We have been a high end one off fab shop that has been in business for almost 10 years. We currently have 3 Tri-five projects going on in the shop all with a custom built chassis under them.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask. I don't have firm pricing yet. I want to see how these go together with my test builders. I have a most of my builders selected but I might be open to some more if they are local. I think I have the shops picked out as to who they will be, they are on the east coast. I would be interested in some talented west coast garage Builders.

My shop website is www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com my email is [email protected].

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Old 03-21-2010, 09:18 AM
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I think those guys on tri-5 site all voted for Obama. Their minds are closed all ready to a new idea.I can weld a little bit and I think I could put that thing togather.The thought that was put into the desgin was the hard part.Nice job.!!
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:18 AM
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Roger --u definitely need to address the tri-5 guys site--they don't no who they
are dealing with ---YET!!--- but we all do!!!! jim
Thanks I did that this morning, I have been busy this weekend. I went to the Fresno Autorama on friday night and then Dinner with potential customer. Then I got up and went to the Go kart track trying to figure out why things we slower. I found my big ass puts too much stress on the engine and she is just tired. Then I met Gordon Peters and Neil Lea of Rods & Restos at my shop last night for a Tour. They both loved the DIY chassis and may each buy one. Then we went to the Crystal Place for dinner and the Old Buck Owens Songs. Last night when I got home I was tired. So I got up early this morning to Hunt and Peck a response.

Just to be clear, I'm in no ready to sell this kits publicly, I'm just looking for a few guys who want one of these chassis's to build and give me their opinion on assembly and whether it can really be done in a home builders garage.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:20 AM
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Roger, here is a link to some of my work.... if that may help to consider me for a trial kit

http://www.picturetrail.com/hotroddder2

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Old 03-21-2010, 09:39 AM
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One thing Ive learned Rodger from you (from the horses mouth) No matter whats being posted there where always be criticism. I think individuals forgot about the key words you wrote "testing" and blew this out of proportion. Not to mention how some like to stir the pot.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:42 AM
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Great concept Rodger! I like the the whole structure of the chassis & think it is a great idea for do it yourselfers! We can weld one up if you like.. For TEST purposes only!
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:02 AM
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One thing Ive learned Rodger from you (from the horses mouth) No matter whats being posted there where always be criticism. I think individuals forgot about the key words you wrote "testing" and blew this out of proportion. Not to mention how some like to stir the pot.
I think the Cyber Cowboys are the funniest. They used to bother me, But I understand it comes with the territory. There is always some guy sitting in his one room apartment scrolling the internet with pet hamster on his lap trying to tell the world what he has figured out about cars from his older brother that took autoshop for a week back in high school. Then he gets up every morning to go work at the mini mart on the early shift looking at car magazines all day. Then they go home and dream about the cars they wish they had on the internet while telling others how they would build there car. All the while chatting on line with under age girls.

There is a website for those guys, its called Myspace. Go take your 6 pack abs and you Enzo Ferrari over there.

As Budweiser would say, We salute you Mister Cyber Cowboy.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:03 AM
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Great concept Rodger! I like the the whole structure of the chassis & think it is a great idea for do it yourselfers! We can weld one up if you like.. For TEST purposes only!
If you have tri-5 project going I would be interested in do that. I want guys who's projects will see the street.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:06 AM
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If you have tri-5 project going I would be interested in do that. I want guys who's projects will see the street.
I drive my 57' weekly ! I am local to you also (Paso Robles). My plan is to pull the body back off of the frame within the next month for some changes so if this chassis is a possibility, it is a great time to do so.

I have a Miller 175 MIG that could easily handle the welds...


Jason

PS, I am a member of www.trifive.com and for the record, I did - NOT - vote for Obama... LOL
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