I have to respectfully disagree with you Steve. I would not buy the SC again. I owned an 83 911 SC and they are kind of the Bastard models. 79-83 I believe. Mechanical fuel injection and the first attempt at electronic ignition. I bought mine from the original owner (my insurance agent! who had every piece of paper on the car) The car was a blast to drive, by far the most fun car I ever owned. It ended up with an electrical issue that caused it to burn up the Bosch "spark box" (think MSD). At $1100 a pop, I replaced it and and 3 months later it burned that one up. I bought an aftermarket one (about $250) and proceeded to learn everything I could about Porsche electrics. Replaced ground straps, battery straps, re-wrapped every inch of wiring harness, dielectric grease on every connector. Popped a few of the aftermarket boxes before sending it to the Guru of Porsches, an independent Porsche mechanic who happened to race them. He had an oscilliscope to look at the electric system, the whole 9 yards. Kept the car for a month, and finally told me to come and get it. When I picked it up, I asked what was wrong and he patted me on the shoulder and asked me to never return with this car. He handed me a business card of a detailer and told me to sell it. I promptly did as told and never looked back. The guy that bought it lived in Virginia. Huge Porsche guy, I told him the issues, didn't phase him. Flew out and drove it back. He called me about 3 months after he bought it asking questions.... He wasn't pissed, just trying not to duplicate my efforts. I Never really figured out what the issue was, but from my experience, buy older, with mechanical everything, or buy 84 and up, with electric everything. The hybrid bastard model years like mine, I wouldn't own another one....
Just my experience....
Darren
That's sumthin! There's nothing worse than spooky electrical problems. Poltergeist IS a german word, after all....
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That's sumthin! There's nothing worse than spooky electrical problems. Poltergeist IS a german word, after all....
I here ya! I started a fire storm several years ago on a Porsche site. I had posted a question about the electrical stuff and explained the issues, well, the responses I got back were: drive it more, have you put techron in the gas? blah blah blah. in other words, no insight or real tech help.
I knew that there were a couple of guys on the pt.com site that were Porsche techs (I think Teetoe Jones was one) I asked for help on pt.com, blasting the Porsche site and there was a member of both sites and he reposted my bashing on the Porsche site. He did not take to the bashing I gave the Porsche guys and site....Needless to say, I am no longer welcome on the Porsche site....
There are 2 distinct people in the car world. Car guys and Porsche guys.
Pass on the 996 and go straight to the 997. Much better car all around
Why is that? If you're gonna modify one (and who around here DOESN'T do that?) and care about cost of entry to some degree I'd still go with 996. Turbo only of course.
Most people who saw a 996 and 997 next to each other wouldn't notice a difference.
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There are 2 distinct people in the car world. Car guys and Porsche guys.
Darren
I'd say yes and no to that point.
It was one of the things I did not enjoy about my P-car ownership. I did meet some good guys and many are still friends but many others still were the typical guys that do unfortunately do the stigma justice.
I'll say most of the a-holes are more the stocker type guys who just buy it for the name and that stigma. The guys I associated with modded the crap outta their cars and I think are just as much hot rodders as many of us. Same but different.
Man those cars ride and drive well though. It was almost too nice for me. 160 felt like 100 in any other car. I want to feel like I'm going 100 when I'm actually going 100. Like a natural governor.
And good thing I didn't know that Ron guy when he had his "in high demand" 993.
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Why is that? If you're gonna modify one (and who around here DOESN'T do that?) and care about cost of entry to some degree I'd still go with 996. Turbo only of course.
Most people who saw a 996 and 997 next to each other wouldn't notice a difference.
I'd say yes and no to that point.
It was one of the things I did not enjoy about my P-car ownership. I did meet some good guys and many are still friends but many others still were the typical guys that do unfortunately do the stigma justice.
I'll say most of the a-holes are more the stocker type guys who just buy it for the name and that stigma. The guys I associated with modded the crap outta their cars and I think are just as much hot rodders as many of us. Same but different.
Man those cars ride and drive well though. It was almost too nice for me. 160 felt like 100 in any other car. I want to feel like I'm going 100 when I'm actually going 100. Like a natural governor.
And good thing I didn't know that Ron guy when he had his "in high demand" 993.
That Ron guy has gotta respond.
First off, I don't ever recall the 996s being called "The last of the Best."
The 993s maintained that Porsche heritage, when a wide body was recognizable. Also, look at all the fine examples in this thread. Yes, they're a bit older, but they have that vintage look similar to a 993. The 996s looked like bath tubs with bug eye headlights. They were such loss leaders that you could buy one for 90 and resell it for 60 in one year! Which is what led the factory back to the original look. Better IMO...
Sure there's cool modded 996s, but not many like this:
(Go ahead Dave, withdrawl for us)
P.S. a hot rodder is a hot rodder, not matter the vintage