Forgive me...

[Mean 69]

In my opinion, the Wilwood kits are the best street brake deal on the market, period. The fit, completeness of the kits, quality, price, etc is second to none, you just can't touch them. I was speaking with them on the big brake kit with the parking brake option well over a year ago, I am glad myself and all of the countless others convinced them it was a good product to develop.

The only beef I have with them is that there is in general "too much" rear brake, meaning even on a 14" front, 13" rear, there is still a bit too much thermal capacity in the rear rotors relative to the fronts, with a 14" / 14", it's even a bit more pronounced. Of course, this doesn't matter on the street or even most casual track days, and before the "Pro Touring" jump in and remind us that "we" are all building "Pro Touring" cars, realize that not all of the folks that come to this site are building street-first, track-second cars. Regardless, these brakes fit the bill for all but the more serious track cars, and look amazing doing it.

By the way, clearly Frank and GP push these kits for a darned good price, but I'd like to also state that we too are a full bore Wilwood dealer and can offer terrific pricing and availability. Frank's just such a nice guy that I've made the decision not to highjack his threads, etc!

As for the challenge, Steve, it's fun, but get real. "That" car in my opinion will pull the best times of any tested to date, it'd better, it's got all the right stuff (should have put a 3-Link in it though ). Your car is BRAND new, it'll kick butt, but you still need a bit of time to do the most important thing of any performance build: dial it in. Hard not to talk trash though, the car is really a terrific piece, it just keeps getting better and better.

Mark

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by Mean 69

As for the challenge, Steve, it's fun, but get real. "That" car in my opinion will pull the best times of any tested to date, it'd better, it's got all the right stuff (should have put a 3-Link in it though ). Your car is BRAND new, it'll kick butt, but you still need a bit of time to do the most important thing of any performance build: dial it in. Hard not to talk trash though, the car is really a terrific piece, it just keeps getting better and better.

Mark

Come on now.. work with me.. lol.. it's all for fun

I feel that the new kit is "too much rear brake" but I can dial it down with the prop valve. Even Wilwood thinks it will do little to improve braking over a smaller set-up, but they feel that the larger rotor would do better after repeated stops.

And of couse the 'Vette will beat me.. but I plan on trying to make it close. Gonna come be my pit crew?

Oh, call me.. I have a deal for ya.

[CraigMorrison]

Our biggest problem is getting miles on the Vette. Have you seen what the weather is like up in the PNW during winter? A roadster and R compound tires just doesn't like 40 degrees and rain!

Last weekend we put about 60 miles on the car, and let me tell you, when those Michelin's get warm, that sucka sticks to the ground!!!

We've also got some dialing in to do with our brakes, but again, with warm tires, she stops quick.

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by CraigMorrison

Our biggest problem is getting miles on the Vette. Have you seen what the weather is like up in the PNW during winter? A roadster and R compound tires just doesn't like 40 degrees and rain!

Last weekend we put about 60 miles on the car, and let me tell you, when those Michelin's get warm, that sucka sticks to the ground!!!

We've also got some dialing in to do with our brakes, but again, with warm tires, she stops quick.

Hey, it's dry down here..

can't wait to see that 'Vette tear it up. I predict VERY good numbers. The only thing nicer than a well done car is a one that get beat on.

[Mean 69]

Oh, I'll be there for you dude!!!! The Camaro should do just fine, thank you very much. That 'Vette though, man, that is one of the sickest cars ever built in my opinion, that thing is going to be a complete rocket.

Craig, by all means, we can certainly help get some miles on the car. I can find one of several garages around here, no problem. It's a dry winter so far, lots of sun ('twas a bit chilly yesterday at 61 degrees....), can't think of a better place to get her all happy and sorted!!!!

Just to clarify a bit, no question you can dial the front-rear bias with a prop valve or a balance bar, that is not an issue at all. What I meant was that after a bunch of repeated stops, the front rotors (taking the vast amount of abuse) will get a "lot" warmer the rears. Honestly, it's not an issue for the 95% of cars/folks, I wouldn't give it a thought unless the majority of your driving time is on road courses that have a lot of braking zones. Even then you'd be able to find and tune the bias, which might be a tick different than the street bias.

Man, the season is just about on us!!! Heck, even my 70 will have paint on her in a month or so!

M

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by Mean 69

Just to clarify a bit, no question you can dial the front-rear bias with a prop valve or a balance bar, that is not an issue at all. What I meant was that after a bunch of repeated stops, the front rotors (taking the vast amount of abuse) will get a "lot" warmer the rears. Honestly, it's not an issue for the 95% of cars/folks, I wouldn't give it a thought unless the majority of your driving time is on road courses that have a lot of braking zones. Even then you'd be able to find and tune the bias, which might be a tick different than the street bias.

Man, the season is just about on us!!! Heck, even my 70 will have paint on her in a month or so!

M

Would running different pad compounds make a difference?

And your '70 is looking GOOD!

[1970cuda]

Originally Posted by CraigMorrison
Our biggest problem is getting miles on the Vette. Have you seen what the weather is like up in the PNW during winter? A roadster and R compound tires just doesn't like 40 degrees and rain!

It's 75 degress day here and I am heading to church. I'll drive it for you!

[olds87]

Originally Posted by 1970cuda

It's 75 degress day here and I am heading to church. I'll drive it for you!

What Church you go to?

O, and Steve, nice rear brakes.

[1970cuda]

No one said that you have to be humble going to church just in church. It sure would be more fun than loading up the minivan and heading to church. Plus it might spice things up with a little fire and brimstone.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I think I have to fly out to see this. What dates are we talking? Mark, your a cool cat.