Shooting in Connecticut

[Tony_SS]

Originally Posted by Ketzer

Yet Washington is saying there is "strong" support for these measures to be taken... support from WHOM?!?

From CNN polls of course!

Politicians using CNN data to represent all of America's opinion.. sounds objective to me! not.

[transam]

Statistics are meaningless without knowing the method. You can asked loaded questions and easily sway people

Assault weapons were used to murder children,should assault weapons be banned? Most people will say ok makes sense yes


Assault weapons seldom are used to commit mass murders while most murders are commited using a handgun,do you feel assault weapons should be banned? People will be more likely to say no.

In the end most people dont really have a clue on whats happening in the world they live in so they will answer questions based on assumptions and media exposure. I seldom give much weight to surveys.

[intocarss]

[realcoray]

Originally Posted by Tony_SS

Ok, but there are no 'gun show loopholes'. That is a political term like 'assault' rifle.

At a gun show, you purchase from a dealer the same way you would at their storefront. A background check is done. Now, a private sale, a check does not need to be done, its private. But there are laws against selling to a known felon, so its seller beware. This differs state to state and is legitimate.

It may vary state to state, but not everyone selling at gun shows is a dealer. If I have guns I want to sell I can get a stall and sell them just the same as if I'm going to a car swap meet.

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by transam

In the end most people dont really have a clue on whats happening in the world they live in so they will answer questions based on assumptions and media exposure. I seldom give much weight to surveys.

Those people are called Sheep and we all know sheep are clueless. Even when it comes to their own protection they have no idea.

[Tony_SS]

Originally Posted by realcoray

It may vary state to state, but not everyone selling at gun shows is a dealer. If I have guns I want to sell I can get a stall and sell them just the same as if I'm going to a car swap meet.

I realize that. Outlawing or even trying to regulate private gun sales will not stop criminals from getting guns.

Drugs are outlawed and users still have no problem getting them.

[parsonsj]

Originally Posted by transam

I seldom give much weight to surveys.

So we ignore the Fox and USA Today and online surveys as well?

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by realcoray

It may vary state to state, but not everyone selling at gun shows is a dealer. If I have guns I want to sell I can get a stall and sell them just the same as if I'm going to a car swap meet.

there is no "gun show loophole". The law at a gun show is the same as outside a gun show. That's just a phrase used to misrepresent the truth. Unfortunately there are many people who truly believe that if you're at a gun show that it's a free for all, and anyone can buy a gun there from anyone without any background checks. They think that one arena has a different set or laws, which is a lie.

Yes, personal transactions can happen without background checks, same as they can on Craigslist, at your house, etc. It is not a different set of laws for gun shows, it's the same laws. Any dealer must do a background check, private sales (depending on the state) do not. Same as two blocks away from the gun show.

If you want to eliminate this "loophole" then quit calling it a gun show loophole; call it a private sale loophole, and non dealer loophole, or whatever.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by parsonsj

So we ignore the Fox and USA Today and online surveys as well?

Your poll shows dropping support for a gun ban. Is that what you were trying to show?

[Tony_SS]

Originally Posted by parsonsj

So we ignore the Fox and USA Today and online surveys as well?

Should Congress create laws based on surveys?