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View Poll Results: Which rear suspension?
DSE's Quadra Link 104 45.61%
Alstons G Bar 77 33.77%
Leave the GW Cat 5's 17 7.46%
Just pull the trigger go Lateral Dynamics 30 13.16%
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:31 PM
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Lateral Dynamics 3 link. Won 1st Ultimate Street car challenge against other 4link setups mentioned in this thread. That tell you enough about it?

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Old 11-17-2008, 09:56 PM
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Yeah and you got to experiance it first hand....that had to be kisk ass!!
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Lateral Dynamics 3 link. Won 1st Ultimate Street car challenge against other 4link setups mentioned in this thread. That tell you enough about it?

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I don't know that I would quite put all the titles weight on the rear suspension. Pretty complete package in Penny. From the drivers seat to the rubber.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:04 AM
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Lateral Dynamics 3 link. Won 1st Ultimate Street car challenge against other 4link setups mentioned in this thread. That tell you enough about it

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Are they still in business?
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I don't know that I would quite put all the titles weight on the rear suspension. Pretty complete package in Penny. From the drivers seat to the rubber.
The drivers had a LOT to do with that, but that is a really good 3 link. If you put the same driver in all the cars, the result would have been very much different all the way around.
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Are they still in business?
from what i hear he is still in "business"...
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I was very impressed with the Lateral Dynamics 3 link on Bad Penny, this system would have to be rated at the top right now.

It's not like you really notice "wow, this rear suspension is really working". It's more like you don't notice any instability or bumps upsetting the rear, often getting something right just takes it away from the driver's perception of it. I also found that the case with the Bilstein shocks on Penny, there just wasn't an issue raised with the shocks. My hat's off to Steve's Bilstein guy.

The car did everything I asked of it and was very easy to drive, yes we had understeer, but other than that, the whole package just flat worked very well. A large part of my getting good results in the car was how easy it was to just hop in and drive the snot out of it! The rear did NOTHING funny, put the power down VERY well from standing start to 95mph curves at 1.2g's

I'm a big fan of leaf springs, I think the only drawback they have is higher unsprung weight, this makes them less ideal for ride characteristics. You can put spherical bearings in them like GW cat 5, but those springs are very stiff and you feel the bumps much more through the bearings. Stock rubber front bushings are better riding but I'm sure you lose a little bit of directional stability.

Hopefully I will be working hard on my 67 Camaro this winter, and am now trying to choose what rear suspension I will use. I am torn between just throwing the Hotchkis leafs on it that I already have and suspect will be a tad soft, or going whole hog on the LD 3 link. With a roll bar in the car, I doubt I'll ever put a passenger in the back seat, it would be suicide. It's just that this was my first car, and I will be keeping it fairly stock looking inside, without the usual PT bling, I actually LIKE the factory gauges, -but it will be kinda serious in the engine and suspension dept.

I see a lot of value in the DSE quadralink, G bar/Air bar, Speed Tech torque arm or Alston rear. I doubt anyone driving on the street would need more, not to say they would not work on a track at all, there is no reason they should not work great. It's hard for me to comment on them since I haven't driven cars with them.

Lap time wise, I doubt there is a big difference between any of them, but for the highest driver confidence / comfort level, and tuneability, I'd lean towards the Lateral Dynamics 3 link. The things I don't like about it are the extra tubing/bracing/linkage for the bellcrank. I'd like to use a 12 bolt rear axle, but access to the rear cover would be tough. I think I'd have to switch to a Ford 9" rear.
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Check the Torqe arm out in action..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDGgbCm0HcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhE4q...eature=related

I went to the track to see it first hand. It carves!

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Old 11-20-2008, 05:12 PM
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Morrison 3-link direct-fit rear clip. But I'm biased

Seriously though, a three link that allows you to keep your rear seat AND greatly improves torsional stiffness. Or a proven triangulated 4-bar that requires no floorpan cutting. Easier to install than a set of reproduction rear frame rails. Definetely an option to consider...

http://www.artmorrison.com/gallery/v...maro-FrontClip
Matt,
Did you have some final driving impressions between your 3-link and the 4-link set up on your car? I believe you were still comparing a month or so ago if I recall correctly. Differences, feel, etc?

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Old 11-21-2008, 02:52 PM
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I think for the money the 3 link is way over priced its atleast 1 grand higher then everything out plus you have to use a 9" so account for another 2gs on that aswell. G bar looks easy to install and great for the money leafs of course are the cheap way but on the street they get the job done.

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