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Old 04-08-2010, 09:42 AM
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Its got to be the shocks. You need a set of new ones.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:58 AM
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I swapped shocks and front springs from side to side and its still the same.....

I've got a call in to the insurance adjuster. I think I'm gonna see if I can find a collision shop with a digital rack that can check the car out....one that I trust with the car, which is gonna be hard.

I could easily put in a spring spacer, or do something to "compensate" for the tilt, but I'd rather find the source than
hide the "issue". I've looked over a bunch of pix I have of the car with good shots of the tire/wheelwell relationship and it was definitely different than it is now.

If all else fails, I'll do the coilovers.... I didnt realize they have bolt in ones for the stock subframe.... I have GW uppers, but stock lowers.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:28 AM
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I think Fesler has a bolt in kit now too. There is a post on PT about it. Afco's and QA1's combined with remote reservoir.

FWIW, I have nearly the same exact set-up as you, and my car has always been lower on the driver's side by 1/2". Drives me nuts. I wish it was the other way around, can't imagine how it looks with my 225lb ass in it as well. Crooked as a politician probably. I have Hotchkis 2" drop BBC springs in front, DSE 2" drop leafs in back, Koni's all around, Speedtech upper, and stock lower with poly bushings, welded in sf connectors and solid GW bushings. My car is dialed in, square as can be, new spring perches in the back, etc. Just the way it is. If you can get to .5", I think that's all you'll get out of it.

I want to switch to coilovers also, mainly because my car isn't low enough in front and it'll maybe fix my tilt also. Sometimes, you just gotta know when to hold em...know when to fold em...


Getting back to the subframe though. I have my suspicions about it for sure. The column mount doesn't really allow side to side movement, and even if it did, the rag joint is a long, long ways away from those bolts, like 2'. For you to move the rag joint 1/4", you'd literally have to have moved the column over about 2-3 inches (if the rag joint is the fulcrum) which doesn't seem likely. The only way for that rag joint to touch the header, is if you move that frame rail holding the steering box closer. If it was bent up a hair, that would effectively raise the spring pocket, thus lowering the car.

The alignment holes aren't necessarily going to show a slight twist in the frame, they will only prove that it's square in relation to the body/cowl on a horizontal plane.

Maybe take a plumb bob and line and see how far the tips of the frame are from the ground, both with and without the suspension loaded, making sure the car is level front to back and side to side.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:31 PM
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This is probably way off, but shortly after I bought my 69 I noticed it too was sagging on the driver's side. I replaced all suspension with the hotchkis TVS system and it was still sagging. It was not until I cut out the rear panel and replaced it that I noticed the sag had gone away. I hope your unibody is not slighly swisted like mine was.

If it makes you feel any better, I found my axle tubes on the original rear end were dented on the top where they had hit the rear frame rails cause someone had probably done their best dukes of hazzard jump with it...I'm pretty sure this is what caused the twist in my unibody.
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Could one or both of your springs be clocked wrong? That would bind a spring and cause a ride height difference.
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Sell the camaro! that way you can finish the Cuda.
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Sell the camaro! that way you can finish the Cuda.
Which one!!
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:13 PM
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Which one!!
Well sell the one that is making him stress. The other one is just a dust collector and isn't tilted.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:15 PM
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I'd sell 'em both! Everybody has one...
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:23 PM
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Its crossed my mind ....but its such a bad time to sell a car.....
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