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Old 05-02-2013, 02:24 PM
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Last night Chris Sr. and Michael, aka Sonar Chief, had a chance to talk on the phone about the issues that Michael is experiencing with his mini-tub install. We are very thankful for his help and prompt replies to our questions. The situation boils down to three main points.

1-Frame Rail Closeouts: Michael’s Camaro is a ’67 with non-staggered shocks. The rails are different from the staggered shock cars. This will most likely require one new frame rail cutout to be made which can be used on both side. Michael is going to send us a template and we will send him the new pieces in laser-cut steel. They will also be added to future kits. NOTE TO EXISTING CUSTOMERS: If you have a ’67 with non-stagger shocks, call me at Ext 247 and I will ship you a pair of the new pieces for free as soon as they are available.

2-Are The CAC Tubs actually 2-3/4” Wider Than Stock? Yes, they are. We measured our inventory on hand and Michael measured the ones he has in his possession. They were compared to dimensions taken from stock inners for ‘67-‘69 and everything matched up as it should.

3-Do They Fit His Car? Because Michael’s car does not have the outer wheelhouse this is a difficult question to answer. It’s impossible to say for sure whether the outside edge of the tub is being correctly located. His car has been almost completely re-bodied but there is a possibility the factory wheelhouse support is bent. As the outer wheelhouses are on backorder from his supplier, we can’t determine this for sure yet. However, we asked Michael to measure the amount of floor remaining between the tubs and that measurement is correct. Therefore all indicators point to yes, they will fit.

Again, I want to thank Michael for being available and understanding so we can help him get this sorted out quickly and to everyone’s satisfaction. I encourage everyone to make us your first call when you have a question about any of our products. We have free tech help available from 8-5 M-F and 8-1 on Saturdays. That’s ‘Sunny California’ time, of course. If you can’t get through, leave us a message and we will get back to you ASAP.

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Old 05-02-2013, 05:16 PM
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Last night Chris Sr. and Michael, aka Sonar Chief, had a chance to talk on the phone about the issues that Michael is experiencing with his mini-tub install. We are very thankful for his help and prompt replies to our questions. The situation boils down to three main points.

1-Frame Rail Closeouts: Michael’s Camaro is a ’67 with non-staggered shocks. The rails are different from the staggered shock cars. This will most likely require one new frame rail cutout to be made which can be used on both side. Michael is going to send us a template and we will send him the new pieces in laser-cut steel. They will also be added to future kits. NOTE TO EXISTING CUSTOMERS: If you have a ’67 with non-stagger shocks, call me at Ext 247 and I will ship you a pair of the new pieces for free as soon as they are available.

2-Are The CAC Tubs actually 2-3/4” Wider Than Stock? Yes, they are. We measured our inventory on hand and Michael measured the ones he has in his possession. They were compared to dimensions taken from stock inners for ‘67-‘69 and everything matched up as it should.

3-Do They Fit His Car? Because Michael’s car does not have the outer wheelhouse this is a difficult question to answer. It’s impossible to say for sure whether the outside edge of the tub is being correctly located. His car has been almost completely re-bodied but there is a possibility the factory wheelhouse support is bent. As the outer wheelhouses are on backorder from his supplier, we can’t determine this for sure yet. However, we asked Michael to measure the amount of floor remaining between the tubs and that measurement is correct. Therefore all indicators point to yes, they will fit.

Again, I want to thank Michael for being available and understanding so we can help him get this sorted out quickly and to everyone’s satisfaction. I encourage everyone to make us your first call when you have a question about any of our products. We have free tech help available from 8-5 M-F and 8-1 on Saturdays. That’s ‘Sunny California’ time, of course. If you can’t get through, leave us a message and we will get back to you ASAP.

~Carl
Carl ... very well stated, thank you!
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Carl ... very well stated, thank you!
That's why Chris has his name on the building but I'm the guy on the forums.
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Carl glad to see you guys stepping up to help.
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Not much going on here except that my door panels from AMD are here and they resemble 67 Camaro door panels that fit correctly. The AMD rep measured the skin before he brought them over (he knew better to bring me another set of skins that didn't fit) and the frames slipped right in .... KOOL!


Door skins that fit, yeah! Yes that is the last of the SNOW..... hopefully

Focusing my attention on my STATS 512 class .... finals next week, can't wait to really work on my car after this class.

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Old 06-20-2013, 07:21 PM
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Wow where does time go? So I thought I'd update those interested on my findings with the mini tubs.
As promised to Chris Alson Sr. I would wait til I received the AMD outer wheel houses to make a final go no/go on the mini tubs. The AMD outer wheel houses came in and they actually fit quite well, (finally something I don't have to beat on to get them to fit) they followed the body flange up and over the tubs and fit nice to the quarter panels .... no fuss involved. With the mini tubs installed on my car the drivers side did not follow the same contour/flange that the outer wheel houses did, the passenger side was closer but not close enough. So I made the decision to send them back and work with Chris on getting the closeouts made for their 67 Camaro mini tub kits.


Template for the closeouts!

These pictures show the contour/flange with the AMD outer wheel houses in, nice fitting pieces.

Pass side view from trunk.

Drivers side view from trunk.

Oh, and I got 2 gallons of Lizard skin delivered .... door skins, roof, quarters, floor, firewall and cowl. Man I better get going, more to come.

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Old 06-20-2013, 07:27 PM
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I was just wondering the other day what you were up to.

I can't say anything about the CA tubs, because I used DSE tubs, but mine fit with no fuss. However, I was fitting them to NOS outers, so I don't know if that is where your issues are coming from.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:57 AM
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I was just wondering the other day what you were up to.

I can't say anything about the CA tubs, because I used DSE tubs, but mine fit with no fuss. However, I was fitting them to NOS outers, so I don't know if that is where your issues are coming from.
Been busy Jeremy .... the AMD outer wheel houses fit great and I'm keeping them fer sure. I have been working on the roof panel also cuz the front corners don't exactly follow the window trim contours. required on the roof and then I can Lizard skin the underside.

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Glad to see you got your problems resolved and making progress.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:56 PM
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Glad to see you got your problems resolved and making progress.
Yes, resolved.... returned! Spoke with the DSE rep this past week and he assured me they will fit a 67 Camaro, I will order DSE mini tubs this week!

I am making progress on the roof, I thought I could get further than I did this weekend making this dang corner but this is complicated , or I am really slow.

Anyway, the AMD roof front corners were crap, picture 1, and the roof line didn't follow the molding worth a crap .... so fix it! Easier said than done follow along with the pictures, making the roof line follow the molding and then making the corner piece in 3D.


AMD corner .... crap stamping!

Working the roof line.

Three piece to make this dang corner PITA!!!!!

Clamped in place .... getting there!

Hopefully, only a couple more hours, days? Some hammer dolly work and then finish the welding ... then the OTHER SIDE!!!

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