Investing 102

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Words to live by right there.

At times I find myself so fixated on company "ABC" just because it catches my eye like big boobs when in reality there are so many others that have much better bodies overall but no fake boobies.

And you have to be into it during the rough moments...A.k.a. My KMP , which i own a lot of, is getting hammered today..

No sweat, because of the dividends, and the fact that I have opposing assets that zig when KMP zags, and they pay dividends too..

So greg, after today, should fellow listeners be buying as you said before the 31 st ????

I have I think plenty, so I may not add, but to the viewers, it may be the TIME...

Finally a question from me about investing...I have been cheer leading too much..

So, Buy KMP after the dip, and before the 31st ?????

[CRCRFT78]

I'll admit, I've been watching KMP since it was first mentioned in this thread but after reading Gregs comments about it the other day I may buy into it. The dip dropped the price and I've got some money to spend.

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by CRCRFT78

I'll admit, I've been watching KMP since it was first mentioned in this thread but after reading Gregs comments about it the other day I may buy into it. The dip dropped the price and I've got some money to spend.

I hope Greg chimes in. I am a large holder of KMP, so I am just watching this on, and not adding. But he may be right on ,as usual, haha.....especially with the 31st coming.

And big dip today..Since I own PM's, it is a wash, and not a Loss today.

I am off to East Bay Muscle Cars to test my car..It is in a Color photo shoot right now.

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by CRCRFT78

I'll admit, I've been watching KMP since it was first mentioned in this thread but after reading Gregs comments about it the other day I may buy into it. The dip dropped the price and I've got some money to spend.

I hope Greg chimes in. I am a large holder of KMP, so I am just watching this one, but he may be right on , especially with the 31st coming.

And big dip today..Since I own PM's and other asset classes, it is a wash, and not a Loss today.

I am off to East Bay Muscle Cars to test my car..It is in a Color photo shoot right now.

I may have it home Today...

[Sieg]

Dear Weldy,

What I would like to discuss next is:

-Signs that it's time to say goodbye.

-Strategies for dumping longtime loosers.

-Loss grievance techniques and support classes.

The reality is I have a few long-time holdings that I'm upside down in due to account neglegence that need to be purged from the portfolio.........including two that went bankrupt. So outside insight would be appreciated as I'm probably not the only one sitting on dead skunks.

[bdahlg68]

One stock I'd like to add for discussion is MV Oil Trust (MVO) [especially for those investing via 401k/IRA/SEP/ROTH]. High yield (via profit distribution and NOT dividend) at 8.79%, and a decent looking chart (only 5 years though). Distribution is back on the rise since the 2008/2009 drop. 5 year total return is 179.29% (at least according to ycharts.com). I like it and I'm considering getting in on this dip.

[sik68]

The internet has made it tough for a company to impress investors these days. It's not enough that a company posts a profit. It's not enough that a company beats the estimate. It seems like the only way to get people to prevent your stock from plummeting on call day is to beat the estimate by more than people expect! If I ran a company it would drive me nuts. "Come on people, what more can you ask for?!"

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by bdahlg68

One stock I'd like to add for discussion is MV Oil Trust (MVO) [especially for those investing via 401k/IRA/SEP/ROTH]. High yield (via profit distribution and NOT dividend) at 8.79%, and a decent looking chart (only 5 years though). Distribution is back on the rise since the 2008/2009 drop. 5 year total return is 179.29% (at least according to ycharts.com). I like it and I'm considering getting in on this dip.

Yes, ask Greg about Oil Royalty Trusts.. BPT, and PBT, have been some of my holdings.. Most of mine are dividend paying assets..BPT is an 8 % dividend with a 50% plus rise in 3 and 5 year chart. The total return was 107% to 167%.
3, and 5 year PBT is a 6 % dividend, with a 30 % and 45% rise in 3 and 5 year charts.

I am just asking.



although the gains are stellar, i am looking at the dividends...well both, but i am after income stream.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by solarguy09

Yes, ask Greg about Oil Royalty Trusts.. BPT, and PBT, have been some of my holdings.. Most of mine are dividend paying assets..BPT is an 8 % dividend with a 50% plus rise in 3 and 5 year chart. The total return was 107% to 167%.
3, and 5 year PBT is a 6 % dividend, with a 30 % and 45% rise in 3 and 5 year charts.

I am just asking.



although the gains are stellar, i am looking at the dividends...well both, but i am after income stream.

One of the things that would concern me is that the performance is obviously tied to the price of crude oil. Take a look at a crude oil chart.


http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CO/M

The charts of BPT and PBT are highly correlated. If you look at the dividends, during the declines in crude oil prices you will see the dividends declining as fast as the price of crude. While they currently pay a high dividend, I would not expect that to continue if the price of crude declined.

These look much riskier to me than most of the other stocks we have been discussing.

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by Woody

One of the things that would concern me is that the performance is obviously tied to the price of crude oil. Take a look at a crude oil chart.


http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CO/M

The charts of BPT and PBT are highly correlated. If you look at the dividends, during the declines in crude oil prices you will see the dividends declining as fast as the price of crude. While they currently pay a high dividend, I would not expect that to continue if the price of crude declined.

These look much riskier to me than most of the other stocks we have been discussing.

Good point..that is why I have been more of a listener than a poster..

I do not want to cloud the Investing 102 thread at all..Thanks for your input..