Power is up---lots

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2

It will get fixed and you will get through this. All the crap will make the victory that much sweeter.

Remember my car.. I had to pull and rebuild my brand new LS2 due to an oil pump failure.

It will get worked out, there arn't any good events this time of the year anyways. Get it sorted out and then you'll be happily behind the wheel.

There is one next week that the shop has already entered me in. The toys for tots show which is a pretty nice show right near my house. They said I WILL be at that one. The good thing is that the hydroboost system is now all good. The problem with that was there was back pressure due to using a filter, and this made the brakes deploy and make all kinds of strange noises. Plus we went to a cool looking tank for it with 2 inlets and one return making it glass smooth and quiet. Or so Im told. Also the J&S is working killer as well. Yeah I sure know all your problems, but you were able to get up in pretty fast time though. CAR does have 10 or so cars, all of which are 100k and higher in value, and a few which are 400k and higher. so I have to sort of be in line, which is understandable.

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by chrismoe

Mike,

Chris here. Sorry you are having difficulty getting your car back on the road. As Steve and Jody keep saying, hang in there man. It will be worth it in the end.

Also, my two-tone Camaro has a very similar motor setup to yours. Here are some relevant specs:

• Engine: Supercharged Chevy 383
• Chevy 350 4 bolt main 010/020 high nickel block bored .30 over
• Heads: Edelbrock Performer RPM aluminum heads
• Intake: Edelbrock RPM Air gap dual plane
• Carburetor: Barry Grant Mighty Demon Blower Calibrated 850 CFM
• Fuel pump: Aeromotive A1000 Electric fuel pump With a Aeromotive boost referenced fuel regulator
• Ignition: MSD 6BTM Boost referenced Control box with MSD Blaster coil and a MSD Pro billet Distributor,
• Cam: Proform duration 282-292 and lift 465, intake 488, exhaust 465 with Pro Form 1.5 roller rockers
• Supercharger: Vortech V1- T-trim with Ice vex air-to-air intercooler custom intake.

Here are links to pictures of my setup:

http://www.fototime.com/C9EE38426267D4F/orig.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/6237DB0AEA3BF7C/orig.jpg

Since I bought Tracy's (rebird) 68 the two-tone car just sits. It is completely dialed in. So, if it would help you can borrow the carb. out of my motor and drop it on your car and see if that helps. I live about 5 miles from C.A.R. so we can connect at C.A.R. and give this a shot if that would help speed things along. Just let me know.

Chris

Hey Chris, that is a huge gesture of kindness, but I could not impose on something like that. I do very much appreciate the gesture. Where you able to make it to the show? My car was not ready, so I was bummed but I had to finish a job with Steve yesterday that we could not get out there, so neither of us went. Today it's been off and on rain so I don't think I would have made it to the show anyways due to the last minute work, and rain today, so maybe it was a blessing in disguise. . Are you going to the show next weekend? I have a small surgury on Friday, but I will be there for sure.

[chrismoe]

Mike,

Chris here. Hope you are well. No, I did not make the Good-Guys show this weekend. With the threat of rain I decided not to go and instead put new seats in the silver and black 68.

What is the latest with your car?

Chris

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by chrismoe

Mike,

Chris here. Hope you are well. No, I did not make the Good-Guys show this weekend. With the threat of rain I decided not to go and instead put new seats in the silver and black 68.

What is the latest with your car?

Chris

Hey Chris, the car is pretty close to being done. The car is very drivable with decent power, not nearly what I want though and I'm tired of screwing with it. There is a small water leak, and it's running a bit hot, but they should be able to fix this stuff this week. I will have it for the toys for tots show this Saturday. No threat of rain now so I WILL be there. There is a fuel tank problem, long right hand sweeping turns on power will starve it. So Rick's tanks may have to make another tank for me.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by mazspeed

Hey Chris, the car is pretty close to being done. The car is very drivable with decent power, not nearly what I want though and I'm tired of screwing with it. There is a small water leak, and it's running a bit hot, but they should be able to fix this stuff this week. I will have it for the toys for tots show this Saturday. No threat of rain now so I WILL be there. There is a fuel tank problem, long right hand sweeping turns on power will starve it. So Rick's tanks may have to make another tank for me.

I thought it was up a lot on power?

Jody

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by camcojb

I thought it was up a lot on power?

Jody

That's what I was told as well. A little over 400 hp at the wheels is not a lot. Not for what I'm paying. But you know, what can I do at this point.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by mazspeed

That's what I was told as well. A little over 400 hp at the wheels is not a lot. Not for what I'm paying. But you know, what can I do at this point.

I thought you were in the 600 rwhp range. You need to have someone else look at it, there's obviously something not right. Once they've got it finished we need to take another look at it.

Jody

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by camcojb

I thought you were in the 600 rwhp range. You need to have someone else look at it, there's obviously something not right. Once they've got it finished we need to take another look at it.

Jody

I wish I was in the 600hp range, and I really think I should be. Problem being Jody is that I cant spend too much more on the car, and no one works for peanuts, or free electrical work. I have thought today that maybe the air filter is hurting power, but you know, I just don't know. At 8 pounds of boost, I should be getting more then a 50-75hp gain on a 430 stock motor. Although the pistons are LC making 400hp about right for just the motor, but only 400hp at the wheels for what I have, something is weird IMHO.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by mazspeed

I wish I was in the 600hp range, and I really think I should be. Problem being Jody is that I cant spend too much more on the car, and no one works for peanuts, or free electrical work. I have thought today that maybe the air filter is hurting power, but you know, I just don't know. At 8 pounds of boost, I should be getting more then a 50-75hp gain on a 430 stock motor. Although the pistons are LC making 400hp about right for just the motor, but only 400hp at the wheels for what I have, something is weird IMHO.

that compression could drop a 430 hp engine to 375 hp or so. That would rw at about 300-325 rwhp. 8 psi should be a 50% gain or so, so it should be in the 450-500 rwhp at that boost. You also should be able to run more boost than that if it's truly 8.9:1 compression and you have water injection.

The 406 I built for Don had the same compression as you, and we ran 14 psi on pump gas and water injection, along with 28-30 degrees of timing. That engine had much better heads than you and a real blower cam, so it made 700 rwhp at that config. But yours should still be capable of 500-550 rwhp pretty easy, but you'll need more boost and a good tune.

Why are they only running 8 psi?

Jody

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by camcojb

that compression could drop a 430 hp engine to 375 hp or so. That would rw at about 300-325 rwhp. 8 psi should be a 50% gain or so, so it should be in the 450-500 rwhp at that boost. You also should be able to run more boost than that if it's truly 8.9:1 compression and you have water injection.

The 406 I built for Don had the same compression as you, and we ran 14 psi on pump gas and water injection, along with 28-30 degrees of timing. That engine had much better heads than you and a real blower cam, so it made 700 rwhp at that config. But yours should still be capable of 500-550 rwhp pretty easy, but you'll need more boost and a good tune.

Why are they only running 8 psi?

Jody

During the engine rebuild, the stock crank was used and new forged rods were used, but I was told that we didn't want to go over 600hp just in case, so we went with an 8 pound pully for durability. Yes, your right, I should be making 500hp at the wheels, and It's not. The water injection is in and working, and moving water into the system. I'm not sure of the timing though. I don't know enough about these things to give an educated guess as too why it's not making power. But I cannot keep sinking money into it either. At some point I have to cut my losses. I do wish I could get to the bottom of it though.