DSE vs. SpeedTech Performance. . .

[Che70velle]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

This whole discussion reminds me of so many others. Everyone has an opinion. Everyone has a favorite.

The DSE is years old - nothing wrong with it - but it's not much different than discussing C4 vs C5 vs C6 and now the newest C7....

When the C4 came out it was the best thing going... Now? It's still good - but not great. When the C8 comes out - it SHOULD be an improvement over the C7

The SpeedTech ExtReme is the newest - fresh design - best geometry currently available...

There will never be a same model - same horsepower - same configuration - same driver - same day - same track "battle" that will satisfy someone that wants to own a DSE part... Or for that matter, a SpeedTech product. The magazine "tests" all cloak their reviews with BS so they don't offend an advertiser... and in most cases of multiple product tests "many" advertisers.

In the end - a crap driver with great products in a well sorted car... will finish back of the pack. A great driver with a half assed POS will probably be up near the front. I've run with Miata's I can barely keep up with... I've run right past ZR1's (shaking my head).

Do your homework - base a purchase on product, service, delivery, after the sale service, parts combo you intend to use. Then make a choice and build the car accordingly. Drive it and have fun. By the time you're half way thru the process there will be 10 newer products out that make your's look antique.


And the debate continues.... LOL

This is the most true statement you will ever read on any car forum...Well done Greg!

[Vegas69]

Good points Obe One.

I like something that has been engineered, tested, tried and is true.

Has the Extreme frame been tested extensively?

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Good points Obe One.

I like something that has been engineered, tested, tried and is true.

Has the Extreme frame been tested extensively?

WE have been driving the C10 which is virtually identical. We have done a couple auto crosses with it and the Optima event. Extensively??? more is always better, Rogers 69 will be done the transformation in a week and that will also then be tested.
It was tested it ALOT during design, production and a lot of installs so we know the fit is good, the construction is beyond any other that I have seen, most of the moving parts are what we use in thousands of other components .I feel we have addressed some items that had not previously been considered limitations or requirements in the past . I would love to say we are just like an OEM and have been designing and driving this for the last 4 years, that is an advantage DSE has right now for sure. I know there are 4 or 5 guys building cars right now to run this year so it shouldn't be long now.

[Vegas69]

Sounds really positive especially with you and Sutton involved.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

In the end - a crap driver with great products in a well sorted car... will finish back of the pack. A great driver with a half assed POS will probably be up near the front. I've run with Miata's I can barely keep up with... I've run right past ZR1's (shaking my head).

Yep!

[alongfortheride]

[Build-It-Break-it]

"Alongfortheride" Who's a/C bracket are you using with which a/C compressor? Everything looks super tight in there.

[Ron Sutton]

Most of my clients, as well as Speedtech's truck, utilize the Drive Junky LS drive system I offer ... which has the A/C mounted up high.

IMHO, it is the Best LS Drive System ...
A. The right water pump we needed, the 2-piece Edelbrock Victor aluminum water pump.
B. A real racing power steering pump from Jones Racing, which I've used for years with great success.
C. A TIG welded aluminum P/S reservoir mounted on the pump ... baffled to prevent slosh & foaming of the power steering fluid.
D. 170 Amp Powermaster Alternator
E. Strong, well designed idler & tensioner mechanisms & pulleys.
F. An ATI Superdamper to protect the crank.
G. Ultra high precision Twin bearings used on all the idlers.

And last but not least ...
H. A Superior design with OVER 180° of belt wrap (contact area) on the power steering pump.

You Autocross? No more belt skip.
Running big front tires? No more pump issues.
Revving your engine to 7000+? No more bearing or component failures.
Have a quality/expensive engine? Protected with a ATI Superdamper.

Want it to still look great? Easy Peasy. You can see the great style, and it's available in:
* Brushed Aluminum
* Polished Aluminum
* Black Hard Anodize over Polished Aluminum

It's a tad more expensive at $2699, but it's got the best quality components, finish & design.

[illmatic96ss]

would love to see the SPEEDTECH c10 with a IRS on the speedtech extreme frame please keep us updated if you guys have this in the works

[alongfortheride]

Small vintage air sanden compressor cbm ac mount and a factory ctsv accessory drive.