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**camcojb** · #51 08-13-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nitrorocket

I can do close to 150 mph from a standing stop in only a 1/4 mile right now, that is why I was figuring I could do another 50 mph in an additional 1/2 mile. I may take a mile to reach 200 mph, but I can surely do it as the car sits in my garage right now

This is where you and I will disagree. Nothing to do with horsepower, I don't think the car would hit 200 mph as it sits. Somewhere on the way up to 200 mph I'm thinking the car will turn into a plane, or become so scary that you'll get out of the throttle.

You're welcome to prove me wrong, but I hope you don't try until you research what will keep the car on the ground at that speed.

Jody

mazspeed · #52 08-13-2006, 08:46 PM

Well my 2 cents.
I think some of the people here should not bash his power numbers. I think a bunch of us have seen the videos of his dyno pulls before. The car makes serious power. Now 200mph is a serious number. It's not just 50mph from 150, it's a whole different planet. The fastest I have ever gone was 175 in a modified Datsun Scarab. The difference between 150 and 175 was incredible. It's not just 25 mph, it's the difference x 10. The car that we were piloting was a highly modified car in it's day. This was 15 years ago. The amount of suspension work frame work and body work that had to be done to go 175 was 10 times more extensive then it is to go 150 mph. I went 145-150 many times while racing the first gen rx-7's and we had to really get the car down, and get the suspension down to make sure we didn't have tail or front end lift. Nitro, I think you have the power to do it, but you may not have the car. It takes a lot of prep on the suspension side to get that down, including many under body mods to get it from lifting. Like Charlie said, Big Red is a nascar chassis covered by a 69 camaro. It was built and designed to go 220mph. Your car is not. I think you would end up killing yourself if you tried to get that car to 200 mph right now. First off you should research the air drag on the car, and or if you can, take the car someplace to get the coefficient of drag and see what that tells you. For all we know your car may fly at 165 or it may just stick on the ground. Who knows but do you really want to be the crash test person at those speeds? Also you should have a nascar style cage to stiffen it up and protect you. If I was you and had a real bug for this, I would just build a car that did this very thing.
Also if you have family or kids, you should consider them before doing a stunt like this.

nitrorocket · #53 08-13-2006, 08:53 PM

Would the car be dangerous, possibly yes, but I have the power and I believe if I stayed in it it would hit 200 mph without flipping

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There is many a drag car like 57 Chevys, Novas, Chevelles, Camaro's, etc, that hit 200 mph in the quarter mile in th outlaw and modified superstreet classes, Most dont even have an air dam anything more than factory. "Bigred" drove at 220 mph and it did not look like he had alot going on for aerodynamics??? Scavos 69 camaro is doing 200 mph with no air dam or other body mods. He is doing that from a dead stop to a quarter mile!

When the time comes, I will change a few things and start creeping up and see how it behaves, I hope I still have time to do it this year.

mazspeed · #54 08-13-2006, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrorocket

Would the car be dangerous, possibly yes, but I have the power and I believe if I stayed in it it would hit 200 mph without flipping

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There is many a drag car like 57 Chevys, Novas, Chevelles, Camaro's, etc, that hit 200 mph in the quarter mile in th outlaw and modified superstreet classes, Most dont even have an air dam anything more than factory. "Bigred" drove at 220 mph and it did not look like he had alot going on for aerodynamics??? Scavos 69 camaro is doing 200 mph with no air dam or other body mods. He is doing that from a dead stop to a quarter mile!

When the time comes, I will change a few things and start creeping up and see how it behaves, I hope I still have time to do it this year.

Nitro, I'm saying this because I kind of know, but I'm no 200mph expert by any means, but I do know racing and speed. The cars that do this are HIGHLY MODIFIED. Your car is not modified for this, and yes these quarter mile cars have these giant rear wings and front spoilers and have the front down and the rear up to push the body down and massive cages. Your car has none of these things. Big Red does have underbody mods, and a whole lot of other mods for this exact thing. If you went out tomorrow and tried this, you and your car would be gone. Going on a quick blast to 150 is easy, holding it and going higher is flat out different.

**camcojb** · #55 08-13-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrorocket

Would the car be dangerous, possibly yes, but I have the power and I believe if I stayed in it it would hit 200 mph without flipping

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There is many a drag car like 57 Chevys, Novas, Chevelles, Camaro's, etc, that hit 200 mph in the quarter mile in th outlaw and modified superstreet classes, Most dont even have an air dam anything more than factory. "Bigred" drove at 220 mph and it did not look like he had alot going on for aerodynamics??? Scavos 69 camaro is doing 200 mph with no air dam or other body mods. He is doing that from a dead stop to a quarter mile!

When the time comes, I will change a few things and start creeping up and see how it behaves, I hope I still have time to do it this year.

Alrighty then, good luck with that.

You ain't listening and I'm getting tired of trying to explain. But a quick re-cap:

The 200 MPH outlaw cars I've seen are all modded, absolutely on the ground, etc.

Big Red is a full tube chassis with a cut/sectioned 69 Camaro body on it. Looks stock, that was the idea. About as stock as a Nascar "stock" car.

Scavos car is way lower than yours, especially up front to keep air out from under it. Likely has some other mods to let air out where it isn't wanted. Don't think it could be driven much on the street at it's ride height.

Jody

nitrorocket · #56 08-13-2006, 09:33 PM

I here what your saying, and I am not saying my car would be solid as a rock at that speed, However, it would get there. I just need to make it safe. I am sure after the new adjustable shocks and springs, along with the adjustable sway bar, the car would feel pretty safe.

http://10wideracing.com/gallery/muscle

Here is a few pages of 200 mph cars, Scavos, Brian Metz, Bob Hood, and many others, I have seen these cars run and they do not get airborne. They are accelerating with almost 2000 hp trying to lift the car and make it airborn and they do not. They have no air dams or body mods, some only sit about 1" lower then my car, some do NOT. Anyone of these cars would need more work to sustain that speed, just like mine.

Anyway, back to the original fricken question.... What do you guys do to your cars to hit these speeds and have the car real stable. What shocks, spring rates, sway bars, etc??

awr68 · #57 08-13-2006, 09:40 PM

Big Red has it's front clip (body panels) tipped down a couple degrees for added down force, take a look at the door to fender gaps.

You clearly aren't listening to these guys....you should before you hurt yourself!!

If you don't have a full cage and are still considering this you are...well in kind words, stupid!! Take a look at Hot Rods to Hell's site for the pics of the Chevelle that went of course at speed, the full cage saved their lives.

Please don't get in over your head, do the needed research and acheve your goal the right way...by either building another car or making the needed changes to this one to make it safe. The question isn't can you do it (I hope you do!), as much as will you do it the right way.

And if you have a wife and kids PLEASE stop driving 150 on the on ramps, go to the drag strip! Take it from a guy that used to ride 1000cc sport bikes way to fast on the street, it's not as cool as you think! Go to the track for EVERYONE'S safety!!!!!!!!

MSchu · #58 08-13-2006, 09:40 PM

This is one of the funnier threads in awhile. Go read about the Hot Rod Camaro or Thacker and Shine's roadster trying to break 200 @ Bonneville. Those are two of the more documented accounts of trying to break 200 I can remember. Hell go to B'ville and watch for yourself. If it were as simple as horsepower+stomp the go-pedal=200 mph, then everyone would have one of those coveted red hats.

rocketman · #59 08-13-2006, 09:45 PM

One thing about those cars all are race cars.and have you ever seen a 10.5 car crash at the far end of the track,because they aren't stable at 200 in 1/4,they dance around something terrible.

You are going to need about 3-4 inch ride height,soft springs and shocks to force the car down at higher speeds.and a big sway bar.

mazspeed · #60 08-13-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nitrorocket

I here what your saying, and I am not saying my car would be solid as a rock at that speed, However, it would get there. I just need to make it safe. I am sure after the new adjustable shocks and springs, along with the adjustable sway bar, the car would feel pretty safe.

http://10wideracing.com/gallery/muscle

Those are quartermile cars, not cars designed to cruse at 200mph. You are not paying attention to logic here. It's way more then a few suspension mods. If you really try this, you're risking your life. Seriously.