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Old 06-15-2017, 06:20 AM
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It occurred to me, there is a common denominator....

Different top shops, different builds, same GW.....







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Old 06-15-2017, 08:32 AM
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you know you can bolt SBF heads on an LS right !!!

or at the very least make some adapters and put FORD valve covers on it !!
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Old 06-16-2017, 08:15 PM
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Went out to Andice today to work with Mike and Harold on the '40..... I was pleasantly surprised to see they'd actually been working on it!!

There were very few problems --

#1 - Is the bed on the truck wasn't square or level. When you viewed the truck from the side - the gap between the cab and front of the bed was a "keystone" or "taper". Now -- it's completely able to be shimmed with some blocks to make it fit perfectly - and I'm not saying that Pinkee's was anywhere near getting to this work area..... so don't get it wrong please. To me - it was more the fact that they (CHRA) had noticed it - checked in to what it took to make it right - and had already fixed it.

#2 - The gas cap in the fender -- a Steve Moal built cap -- frenched in to the driver rear fender. It's an "O ringed" cap.... but CHRA had gone one better and used a new car style positive twist and sealed cap INSIDE of the Moal cap - and had already C notched the chassis and run the stainless tubing for the connection....

#3 - The area under the bed - and the gap between it and the chassis.... normally filled with just a plain piece of metal. They had already mocked up, for my viewing pleasure, two different styles of louvers for this area - giving the truck a definite hot rod touch! The one they - and Gwen and I loved - was the use of a "curved" louver - think if you sliced a side of a football off - rather than just the standard straight louver. The truck is all curves - and the use of the curved version was perfect. CHECK!

#4 - The intake was already done!


#5 - The steering column was relocated slightly - so they could hook up the transmission linkage and steering knuckles and shaft. This area is a super tight fit at the driver side valve cover. As in -- Oh my!

We're going to use some of the curved louvers in the inner fender well area (custom built - very nicely by Pinkee's) to allow for some air flow.... and I'm "thinking" (now that I've seen this bitchin' louver) of throwing a few in the hood as well.... we'll mess with placement and pattern a bit to attempt to get it right - or eliminate them if we can't.


Discussion turned to some details -- bumpers or nerf bars in front - I'm opting for the nerf bar style. With the right rake - and some little hot rod touches -- it lends itself to that styling que..... They'll keep the front end from being hung out there with the traditional bumper (although a '41 bumper is better than the '40... they still have to be out front a ways). The rear has to follow the front - so a custom style rear bumper will be built.

We talked stereo - speakers - sub - amps etc -- door treatment (interior) and latches. Bear claws?- stock? - or their suggestion of a modern latch that Mike liked because of how it worked. I'll go with their modern latch suggestion. Door handles to operate it are TBD. Mirror styles etc TBD.

I hated the A/C in the '33 --- it was junk and could barely keep the tiny little space tolerable. Junk is being nice.... and there were a couple of factors that contributed to it's poor performance -- #1 being the ridiculous little hot roddy outlets. Those POS couldn't flow enough air to keep a flea cage cool.... and I've never liked the "one style doesn't fit anything" Vintage Air controls.... Well -- personally -- I love a shop that has the correct answers for solutions... and they showed me a couple of options that were spot on! BINGO! Problems solved. Gotta love it!

Then -- the seat? Gwen and I both sat on a plastic milk crate (my name for them). The seat in a stock 40 - had a "seat riser" platform... which is my preference - and we'll build in some storage drawer access in front. A quick access spot for little things like glasses - and gum - and just "stuff"... it will also be the right space to hide stereo amps etc. In 1940 - you had the option(?) of the gas tank under the seat or under the bed.... I ASSume the riser was the place where the gas tank went. We'll use this space for some storage. DONE.

So basically they're now in the process of getting all the "mechanical" stuff hooked up - or built and hooked up. That way there's no "oops" where's that going to go? Then they can go back and address the details. The hood etc fit really well -- amazingly well - kudos to Pinkee's for getting it right. The hood latch set up they built falls right together with a nice click.

So funny thing about the actual SEAT -- what style etc. I said my buddy Dan Peterson had the perfect seat in his '40 PU that I liked and wanted to use. It's a square back - with a fold down armrest - has a "bucket" feel to the seating area - and the seat cushion can flip forward for under seat access. A quick iPad pic and Gwen et al agreed. Only one problem.... I don't know how to get hold of Dan to find out what seat he used. So once back at the hotel - I started networking. A buddy owns Warehouse West - a perfomance parts wholesale distribution / retail operation - a call to the owner, Brad - he knew Dan and figured he knew a couple people that should have contact info.... an hour later - I've got it! Thank you Brad - you were always a good man!

A call to Dan - and it's a Glide Engineering Inc seat (they have several styles to choose from) and lo-n-behold they also make a steel seat riser! That will save me money when I don't have to make one from scratch! So I hang up after a nice conversation with Dan - and go to Glides website.... What's on the front page (home page)??????? A picture of the '33 !! Click on it -- and an even larger picture of it!! LOL WTF are the odds of that??? It's fate..... LOL


http://www.glideengineering.com/



Here's the seat in Dan's - at the time, unfinished project... and now he tells me he has 200 miles on his finished project! Good for him!! He's built some seriously nice hot rods in his day! Apparently he's still got it!! Good for you Dan!






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Old 06-16-2017, 08:39 PM
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That seat looks like it would be comfortable on along ride. Glad the stress is diminishing and it's feeling fun again Greg.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:48 AM
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I put a Glide seat in my 47 Ford coupe. Loved it, really comfortable and bolted right to the stock floor mounts.
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Went out to Andice today to work with Mike and Harold on the '40..... I was pleasantly surprised to see they'd actually been working on it!!

Great to hear Greg!

Progress and they've had it less than a month! Apparently this time you found a great shop.

I'm glad you changed shops. Apparently the guys in Andice don't like the idea of paid storage and would actually prefer to turn out completed vehicles.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:48 PM
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I hated the A/C in the '33 --- it was junk and could barely keep the tiny little space tolerable. Junk is being nice.... and there were a couple of factors that contributed to it's poor performance -- #1 being the ridiculous little hot roddy outlets. Those POS couldn't flow enough air to keep a flea cage cool.... and I've never liked the "one style doesn't fit anything" Vintage Air controls.... Well -- personally -- I love a shop that has the correct answers for solutions... and they showed me a couple of options that were spot on! BINGO! Problems solved. Gotta love it!
This is very helpful GW. Could you elaborate on what system you decided to go with?
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This is very helpful GW. Could you elaborate on what system you decided to go with?


They're Vintage Air -- but the one in the '33 didn't ever blow very cold -- and the outlets were stupidly small -- and the air from that unit was always full of moisture. Brizio had that unit in and out of the car at least 3 times.... it just sucked.


The unit in the '40 is also Vintage Air -- And CHRA said that some units seem to work great and some just don't. BUT -- they had a killer hide-away outlet that flowed a lot of air -- so we'll try that.... and they'll hide the control unit and an angle under the dash. As we discussed - in those units - you really only ever run then fan speed knob. So once you know where that is - you're good to go.

I think the condenser in the '33 was just too small to gte the hear out of the leaking convertible top. A black top - a dark blue car.... takes some cooling power. Add some humidity -- and you're out of luck. The top on the '33 never did seal well. The VA unit in my '56 Nomad would freeze you out... and that was a lot of volume to cool. In the '33 it always felt like the unit was working really hard but not getting the result. I always wondered if there wasn't a hose kinked up under the dash? Or the unit was just flat out defective.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:22 AM
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.... and they'll hide the control unit and an angle under the dash. As we discussed - in those units - you really only ever run then fan speed knob. So once you know where that is - you're good to go.
Hey Greg, when I was doing my '37 Plymouth truck, I used this Desoto control head that I modified to work with the modern controls. Looks cool, is designed to bolt under the dash, and keeps the period look.

Here's a pic of the mock up one I picked up to see if it would work:


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Great to hear. Thankful your are getting good progress. We use vintage air in everything with great success. We have managed to get a Gen IV in about everything and always end up with 34 degree vent temp. The things a lot of people not attack is, keeping heat out. Making sure that the only way the air gets through the condenser is to block all other outlets and lastly proper fan shroud. Being in Florida and building daily drivers is our forte. Proper firewall insulation, door gaskets and window fitment and gaskets, all while maintaining a look of yesteryear is a big job but also pays off in big dividends. Also we use a new window tint that is clear, but removes a ton of heat in the vehicle.

Greg, I hope this progress continues and I am sure they know that they are under the spot light, which doesn't hurt either. I have been impressed with their facility from day one, not sure why Levi left there, but that happens.

Have a great Fathers Day.
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