Project "Payback"

[Vegas69]

Good idea....I'll be back at you after the race!

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Good idea....I'll be back at you after the race!

Sweet. Give em some big block hell.

[Bow Tie 67]

Originally Posted by rogue

Dick Guldstrand told me that if you're not sliding off the track you're not driving fast enough so be prepared for that as well

Go out and get a bunch of seat time and instruction, its an absolute blast. I'd love to see another pro-touring car actually out at HPDE events ripping it up. I'm a little bit sick of these $100k pro-touring cars 'racing' at 35mph autocross events...

Drive your damn cars folks, thats why we built them like we did

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Amen, brother. ^^^^^^

Todd, I agree with rogue and the street tires first. I know the pilots suck, I have the same tires, but with them you can drive the car up to and beyond the limit to get a true feel for the car. My fastest laps have always been right after an off track excursion. With the R888, I have them also, they can mask driving error and give, at least for me, a sense of being super man. I have only used the r compound at two events. I am a little nervous at finding there limit, as I know it will be at a much higher speed and pucker factor. Learn to drive the car first, then compliment your skills with better tires.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I'm trying to edumacate a few fellers around here. Evidentally barbeque flash dance knows it all.

Wow! Even the normally very tough Russian judge gave a 10.0 mark for that fine beatdown and dismount off of Flash's head.

[tones2SS]

Thanks for posting Todd and explaining all that. I appreciate and follow this thread closely as it is very relative as to how I want to build my car.
(I know, I know,...great minds think alike!!!) lol

[89 RS]

Originally Posted by Flash68

why don't you put an equally big sticker on the valve covers that say:

VALVE COVERS

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I'm trying to edumacate a few fellers around here. Evidentally barbeque flash dance knows it all. That was wrong, but really funny. I'm sure the sticker is coming off, just not today or tomorrow. I've been working on a few to many squats getting off and on my creeper! You wouldn't know since your paying somebody else to cuss like a sailor. I do like your valve cover idea. I may actually get some vinyl stickers that say 1969 Camaro for the doors. What happended to my thread? No wonder I can't ever find anything in my thread!

....You guys are something else. On a serious note, that is some good stuff you did to your car Todd. Can't wait to hear how everything goes.

[Vegas69]

Ya...I harrass these guys just like my buddies around here.

I understand your theory bowtie. I'm sure it's the best way but I feel safer on my R compounds. My other set is a 255/345 stagger. It works great on the street, but not so much on the track. The car is so much more predictable with these wheels and tires. It's my first time so I hope to be a little conservative. She's all ready to go. That accumulator is a pretty cool deal. I'm up at 5 AM to go over the hump to Pahrump and give it hell. I'm pretty sure I'm taking half the garage!

[waynieZ]

Good luck tomorrow Todd. Have some fun for me...

[rogue]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Ya...I harrass these guys just like my buddies around here.

I understand your theory bowtie. I'm sure it's the best way but I feel safer on my R compounds. My other set is a 255/345 stagger. It works great on the street, but not so much on the track. The car is so much more predictable with these wheels and tires. It's my first time so I hope to be a little conservative. She's all ready to go. That accumulator is a pretty cool deal. I'm up at 5 AM to go over the hump to Pahrump and give it hell. I'm pretty sure I'm taking half the garage!

scary words... read them again. R-Comps won't talk to you like street tires, you will end up sliding off the track before you know it. They don't give a driver feedback at the edge of grip. I learned this lesson many times over myself with my car, and I'm SO glad I have a single stage earl sheib job. Just trying to keep your nice shiny paint job shiny and save a fellow Lateral-G member some heartache.

This is the last time I'll mention it I promise.

Good luck out there regardless of what you choose to run. Have fun!

[68protouring454]

I will disagree to an extent. toyo r888 have great grip but they are not in anyway shape or form dot slick tires, the offer really good feedback and are merely a sticky street tire, can be used in all weather.
I have driven every track day i have done with them, they give you confidence, but yet screech when nearing limit and come back quite nicely when you turn down the wic some.
while comparing to pilot sport II's they are day and night, but there are a few street tires that stay up with the toyos in short track burst's up to 10-15 mins, after that the toyos will hold much better.
just creep up on the edge as the day goes on, and you will be all good.