C6 Weld-On Flange Ends

[Vince@Meanstreets]

parking brake plate

[MillerBuilt]

Originally Posted by raustinss

Is it safe to say that strange engineering can also do the axles? Also I'm confused as to what the black disc is behind the hub in your3d model pictures

Yes, that would be very safe to say. Technically axles were available through STRANGE upon my original posting.
Also as Vince stated (Thanks Vince), The black disc represents the parking brake backing plate. Unfortunately I do not have these GM CAD files so I just created a disk with the proper thickness to represent the backing plate.

[samckitt]

Originally Posted by JSM

I have had a few questions as to the axle arrangement. Thought I would post the drawings to help visualize.
Hope to have real world pics as customers start getting these kits installed.
Also thought I would share that STRANGE ENGINEERING is on board to install these kits too!

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These are cool What CAD system are you using?

[MillerBuilt]

Originally Posted by samckitt

These are cool What CAD system are you using?

Thanks!
All designs are done in SW 2012.

[Ron in SoCal]

Jay on the front of C5/C6 spindle and hub applications there is a spacer from GM that is used to hold the abs harness wires and move the rotor out about 20 to 30 thousandths. It's about a $12 part from GM. I'm wondering if one would need it in your application (or my existing one)? The only way I would know to tell is to mock up a rotor and caliper and see if the rotor is to far inboard of center.

Hope this helps,

Edit: I believe they are called ABS Sensor attachment brackets.
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/9...965#post933965

[MillerBuilt]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Jay on the front of C5/C6 spindle and hub applications there is a spacer from GM that is used to hold the abs harness wires and move the rotor out about 20 to 30 thousandths. It's about a $12 part from GM. I'm wondering if one would need it in your application (or my existing one)? The only way I would know to tell is to mock up a rotor and caliper and see if the rotor is to far inboard of center.

Hope this helps,

Edit: I believe they are called ABS Sensor attachment brackets.
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/9...965#post933965

Hey Ron, for the rear of C5/6 Corvettes, the parking brake backing plate is that "spacer" and has the attachment point for the ABS pigtail on it.

PS. I would assume that your set up so long as it was designed to take OEM parking brake, would already be accounted into the machine dimensions of your/Blakes weld on ends. And just FYI, The rear parking brake backing plate accounts for approximately .045".

UPDATE: Pictured below are the C5/6 rear (left) and front (right) ABS sensor attachment brackets. As you can see on the rear they are incorporated into the e-brake backing plate.
UPDATE TO THE UPDATE: Another little detail/tidbit is that I have physically measured rear e-brake plates at anywhere from .042"-.046" thickness, and the fronts plates/abs sensor brackets always seem to be a little thicker at .055-.062". Overall the differences will never be noticed by anyone not looking for it but just figured I would share the findings. Personally I chalk it up to +/- tollerences within the parts themselves AND the coating process...

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[bsharpe]

I have been working with Jay(JSM) since he originally posted his c5/c6 flange setup. I knew that I wanted to use this type of flange on my current build. I was honestly waiting for DSE to finalize their setup using Steilows flanges.

I am extremely happy that Jay offered his flanges first.
This setup is not only better and more versatile(ABS brakes) than all the other options but it is also cheaper than most. The flanges might seem expensive when compared to a set of Ford Big bearing flanges($80) but you don't need brackets like those available from Kore3($750 for parking brake).

I ordered the flanges and jig ends from Jay. I also ordered Mittler Bros 60" alignment bar from Jegs($130) and the 2.890 inner alignment blocks($80) for the third member from JEGS.

Jay will loan the larger inner alignment blocks but the third member cases with larger bearings are harder to find and are more expensive. I bought a empty case for $40 on craigslist and now own a Jig for any 9" housing.








Assembling the fixture and using the jigs is extremely simple especially with the flat spots to locate the calipers.

Truck Tech on spike had a good episode on building a custom 9". You can watch them online http://www.powernationtv.com/episode...om-9-rear-gear

[MillerBuilt]

Originally Posted by bsharpe

I have been working with Jay(JSM) since he originally posted his c5/c6 flange setup. I knew that I wanted to use this type of flange on my current build. I was honestly waiting for DSE to finalize their setup using Steilows flanges.

I am extremely happy that Jay offered his flanges first.
This setup is not only better and more versatile(ABS brakes) than all the other options but it is also cheaper than most. The flanges might seem expensive when compared to a set of Ford Big bearing flanges($80) but you don't need brackets like those available from Kore3($750 for parking brake).

I ordered the flanges and jig ends from Jay. I also ordered Mittler Bros 60" alignment bar from Jegs($130) and the 2.890 inner alignment blocks($80) for the third member from JEGS.

Jay will loan the larger inner alignment blocks but the third member cases with larger bearings are harder to find and are more expensive. I bought a empty case for $40 on craigslist and now own a Jig for any 9" housing.








Assembling the fixture and using the jigs is extremely simple especially with the flat spots to locate the calipers.

Truck Tech on spike had a good episode on building a custom 9". You can watch them online http://www.powernationtv.com/episode...om-9-rear-gear

Ben,

Thanks for posting your experience thus far with the product.

Jay

[mfain]

Jay,

Went out and dug a 60 Olds rear end out of salvage at Desert Auto Parts. I have a fresh 3.90 posi, 9.3 inch Pontiac with "all the good stuff". Totally bullet-proof. Got an alignment bar and inner alignment blocks (3.265 in.) from Mittler Bros. (57-64 Olds, Dana 44, and Chrysler 8.75). Bar and blocks will be available for loan after I am through using them. Going to Texas for the GoodGuys (Ft. Worth) in late March and will build up the housing there. I'm also taking the jigs so my son can build the LCAs for my 56 Corvette. I'll give you a call for the outer alignment blocks.

Pappy

[MillerBuilt]

Originally Posted by mfain

Jay,

Went out and dug a 60 Olds rear end out of salvage at Desert Auto Parts. I have a fresh 3.90 posi, 9.3 inch Pontiac with "all the good stuff". Totally bullet-proof. Got an alignment bar and inner alignment blocks (3.265 in.) from Mittler Bros. (57-64 Olds, Dana 44, and Chrysler 8.75). Bar and blocks will be available for loan after I am through using them. Going to Texas for the GoodGuys (Ft. Worth) in late March and will build up the housing there. I'm also taking the jigs so my son can build the LCAs for my 56 Corvette. I'll give you a call for the outer alignment blocks.

Pappy

That sounds awesome Pappy! I (as well as others I am sure) am not familiar with those Olds rears but really look forward to your build pics! VERY unique and will definitely show just how universal this C6 set-up of mine is. I think we will most likely see them on Chevy 12 bolts and Ford 9" rears but love the fact you are stepping out of the box
I also appreciate the offer out on the table for your bar/inner blocks to folks with your type application (Olds, Dana 44, Chrysler 8.75). I have a few sets of the outer alignment blocks now and will put your name on a set for your end of March trip!

PS. your wheel is safe and sound and will get it back to you soon