With the talk of going 200mph...

[novanutcase]

Originally Posted by nvawgn

bonified 200mph blast
http://www.nhra.com/2006/events/race...Race01%20Movie

I think what you and Nitro aren't understanding is that to go that fast you need to not only have the horses to get her up but you need a means of keeping the tires planted so that you can keep her in a straight line! Most of the videos that have been posted are cars that have some means of keeping the car planted on the ground. This is what Jody and the guys are trying to get across to Nitro! Be it weight, a wing, whatever he needs keep the car from lifting. He needs to address this and other issues(Brakes come to mind!) to do this SAFELY before he even attempts to go this fast!

[nvawgn]

Originally Posted by novanutcase

I think what you and Nitro aren't understanding is that to go that fast you need to not only have the horses to get her up but you need a means of keeping the tires planted so that you can keep her in a straight line! Most of the videos that have been posted are cars that have some means of keeping the car planted on the ground. This is what Jody and the guys are trying to get across to Nitro! Be it weight, a wing, whatever he needs keep the car from lifting. He needs to address this and other issues(Brakes come to mind!) to do this SAFELY before he even attempts to go this fast!

yes i understand what you are saying and agree but all you need is money or know how, it's not that hard any more or as it used to be. all the parts are available

[nvawgn]

i think what you guys are not understanding is that 8sec 170mph street cars are a dime a dozen, change a few things and a couple of extra miles and alot of money and wahla! it may not be safe, the driver is probably stupid or ignorant or what ever but it can be done. the point is most people here on this board do it safley with proper enginering and such but the reality is, most people don't.

[JamesJ]

200 is slow, how about 400
This guy parked next to us at Bonneville
http://www.scta-bni.org/news/411.wmv

[nvawgn]

Originally Posted by JamesJ

200 is slow, how about 400
This guy parked next to us at Bonneville
http://www.scta-bni.org/news/411.wmv

exactly, i love watching 32 fords run 200+mph

[novanutcase]

Originally Posted by nvawgn

i think what you guys are not understanding is that 8sec 170mph street cars are a dime a dozen, change a few things and a couple of extra miles and wahla! it may not be safe, the driver is probably stupid or ignorant or what ever but it can be done. the point is most people here on this board do it safley with proper enginering and such but the reality is, most people don't.

Exactly.....noone is saying that he doesn't have the grunt to get it up there but on the way up he may lose it because he doesn't have the proper aero to keep it planted! So let's say he gets it to 200 mph, how's he going to slow it down without frying the stock brakes? Is he going to outfit it with a 'chute? This is what the guys are saying! Noone doubts that he has the motor to do it rather can he do it SAFELY! I agree with the guys that Nitro needs to address these issues first and then INCREMENTALLY try and get his car to hit the 200 mph mark. This is the safest way of doing that so that whatever issues that pop up don't pop up at speed and can be addressed so that when he does hit it nothing will go wrong and he won't end up as a stain on the wall!!! Liken his approach to jumping out of an airplane with a 'chute that he packed and no reserve 'chute! Pretty dicey but can it be done? Sure, but your taking a huge chance! Why not do it safely! It will be much more enjoyable to all who watch!(Especially his wife and kid(s))

[nvawgn]

Originally Posted by novanutcase

Exactly.....noone is saying that he doesn't have the grunt to get it up there but on the way up he may lose it because he doesn't have the proper aero to keep it planted! So let's say he gets it to 200 mph, how's he going to slow it down without frying the stock brakes? Is he going to outfit it with a 'chute? This is what the guys are saying! Noone doubts that he has the motor to do it rather can he do it SAFELY! I agree with the guys that Nitro needs to address these issues first and then INCREMENTALLY try and get his car to hit the 200 mph mark. This is the safest way of doing that so that whatever issues that pop up don't pop up at speed and can be addressed so that when he does hit it nothing will go wrong and he won't end up as a stain on the wall!!! Liken his approach to jumping out of an airplane with a 'chute that he packed and no reserve 'chute! Pretty dicey but can it be done? Sure, but your taking a huge chance! Why not do it safely! It will be much more enjoyable to all who watch!(Especially his wife and kid(s))

agreed, it's just the way some people make statements sometimes, it sounds like the 200mph club is unreachable and sometimes i generalize too much. yes fine tuning suspension, arodynamics, braking, safety and so forth are just as important, time consuming, exspensive and tedious but i think the point we are trying to make is people can hit the 200mph mark pretty easy, it's living to tell about it that can be difficult

[novanutcase]

Originally Posted by nvawgn

agreed, it's just the way some people make statements sometimes, it sounds like the 200mph club is unreachable and sometimes i generalize too much. yes fine tuning suspension, arodynamics, braking, safety and so forth are just as important, time consuming, exspensive and tedious but i think the point we are trying to make is people can hit the 200mph mark pretty easy, it's living to tell about it that can be difficult

Theirs and my point exactly! I think a lot of guys forget that having a motor that big brings a responsibilty to not only going fast but stopping fast! They forget that a car is a collection of systems that need to work flawlessly between each other. This is my concern with Nitro! He seems to feel that because he has the motor and will have a tranny to get there that's all he needs. All I'm saying is put some thought into keeping the car planted, as the guys and jody have also said!

[nvawgn]

Originally Posted by novanutcase

Theirs and my point exactly! I think a lot of guys forget that having a motor that big brings a responsibilty to not only going fast but stopping fast! They forget that a car is a collection of systems that need to work flawlessly between each other. This is my concern with Nitro! He seems to feel that because he has the motor and will have a tranny to get there that's all he needs. All I'm saying is put some thought into keeping the car planted, as the guys and jody have also said!

agreed and too add a little something, body style and motor size do not really matter anymore as long as you have quality enginering and enough HP....

[JayR]

Originally Posted by nvawgn

bonified 200mph blast
http://www.nhra.com/2006/events/race...Race01%20Movie

Are you seriously comparing a stock bodied Chevelle to an NHRA pro stock car that has been methodically engineered by some of the greatest minds in drag racing over the course of decades to run exactly 1320 feet in the quickest elapsed time possible??? Apples and oranges doesn't even sum it up.

If you really want to see what you're up against, look at this Road & Track Standing Mile test from 2005 where they ran 13 cars and a bike over a standing mile.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1
A very aerodynamic Jaguar Trans Am racecar only went in the 170s and to get a little more aero, they removed the rear wing and the driver said it was spinning the rear tires at the 180 and couldn't pick up another mph. And that was a very slippery, purpose-built, high speed, roadrace car.
The only 3 cars to break 200 were a Champ Car, A TT Saleen S7 and a 1000hp TT Viper which are all infinitely more aerodynamic than a stock Chevelle.