Yet Another Project~Have Auto-X questions

[TimeWarpF100]

2 years ago I started to build a 1966 F-100 with a 2011-13 3.5L TT EcoBoost Chassis.

Best I can tell it will not be allowed to run Auto-X because of the have to have in order for engine to run and work ABS, Roll Control etc?

Or would I be able to run in a later model class? It will be titled as a 1966 but will pretty much be sheet metal only.

If anyone here cannot answer who would I ask?

I know I know its hard to picture this thing going around corners?

At least its a Ford in a Ford! hahaha

Just seeing what I can turn a 300.00 Truck into . .

[TimeWarpF100]

Oh WOW, I found a great deal on a LS for this project!

This should be fun!

[Rod P]

Originally Posted by TimeWarpF100

2 years ago I started to build a 1966 F-100 with a 2011-13 3.5L TT EcoBoost Chassis.

Best I can tell it will not be allowed to run Auto-X because of the have to have in order for engine to run and work ABS, Roll Control etc?

Or would I be able to run in a later model class? It will be titled as a 1966 but will pretty much be sheet metal only.

If anyone here cannot answer who would I ask?

you can run the 66 with a newer motor....we all do.... I run my 1968 camaro with a 2007 LS motor

[TimeWarpF100]

Originally Posted by Rod P

you can run the 66 with a newer motor....we all do.... I run my 1968 camaro with a 2007 LS motor

Thanks Rod!

I guess I did not make it very clear.

Because there is no stand alone harness available for the 3.5TT I have to keep the electronic assist steering, ABS, Roll Control, Stability control intact as there does not seem to be a way around it. After watching many runs in Scottsdale a week or so ago I was surprised at the number of cars that were locking up a single wheel or just 2 wheels going into a turn. I started project 2yrs ago in April but now looks like I will not be able to run.

Can I still run it? I thought I read no ABS etc allowed.

Just trying to figure out which class if any I could run in.

[TimeWarpF100]

here is where I am at right now. Illness has caused a 2yr hold on project but really want to get back on it soon.



Complete bare frame shipping weight is 520lbs

[Twoblackmarks...]

Originally Posted by TimeWarpF100

Thanks Rod!

I guess I did not make it very clear.

Because there is no stand alone harness available for the 3.5TT I have to keep the electronic assist steering, ABS, Roll Control, Stability control intact as there does not seem to be a way around it. After watching many runs in Scottsdale a week or so ago I was surprised at the number of cars that were locking up a single wheel or just 2 wheels going into a turn. I started project 2yrs ago in April but now looks like I will not be able to run.

Can I still run it? I thought I read no ABS etc allowed.

Just trying to figure out which class if any I could run in.

I would Guess the car would be nicer to drive With all the original Equipment, but maybe the Stability Control and such would work "weird" in a differnet car than programmed for?

There is a lot of stand alone engine management systems to choose.

Electromotive - USA
Haltech - Australian
Autronic
Motec and probalby more, but these are the one i remember right now

Megasquirt too!

I think Motec and Autronic are the most "fancy" and pricey, but they all are mostly the same but with different "extra-abilities" built in, as running turbo-lag Control and whatever. Now they probably all are the same.

Electromotive can be very simple if you want it to be, a friend has a turbo VW With only MAP, TPS and TEMP that is all! You could have much more if you want though. Haltech I have also heard are Nice and easy to work With. I have not owned any myself. But look up their homepages

[TimeWarpF100]

Originally Posted by Twoblackmarks...

I would Guess the car would be nicer to drive With all the original Equipment, but maybe the Stability Control and such would work "weird" in a differnet car than programmed for?

There is a lot of stand alone engine management systems to choose.

Electromotive - USA
Haltech - Australian
Autronic
Motec and probalby more, but these are the one i remember right now

Megasquirt too!

I think Motec and Autronic are the most "fancy" and pricey, but they all are mostly the same but with different "extra-abilities" built in, as running turbo-lag Control and whatever. Now they probably all are the same.

Electromotive can be very simple if you want it to be, a friend has a turbo VW With only MAP, TPS and TEMP that is all! You could have much more if you want though. Haltech I have also heard are Nice and easy to work With. I have not owned any myself. But look up their homepages

Only one of those companies makes one. MegaSquirt. But for a price between 10,000-12,000.00 just to run the engine think its a bit much. I can do half the truck for that amount. I was hoping to do the complete truck DONE for around 25k or less.

At this point I will have to keep going with the stock Ford Computer's.
I "think" I have that portion figured out.

I was trying to find out what I needed to do to be able to run Auto-X.

The stock ford computer will not know what vehicle it is running just that it will be a bunch lighter.

[Twoblackmarks...]

Originally Posted by TimeWarpF100

Only one of those companies makes one. MegaSquirt. But for a price between 10,000-12,000.00 just to run the engine think its a bit much. I can do half the truck for that amount. I was hoping to do the complete truck DONE for around 25k or less.

At this point I will have to keep going with the stock Ford Computer's.
I "think" I have that portion figured out.

I was trying to find out what I needed to do to be able to run Auto-X.

The stock ford computer will not know what vehicle it is running just that it will be a bunch lighter.

Where did that price come from? I would Guess like 2000-3000 maybe for an Electromotive. Haltech is maybe around the same. Megasquirt is cheaper, Motec on the other hand can probably end up expensive if you want to.. I think the hardest part to Control would be the transmission maybe?, the stand alone units can work inbetween Stock Control units.

But I see now that you are using the Complete frame from the newer car, so then it would probably be easier to use it as is. Just "bolt-on" a New body (Sort off.. )

And end up in that class you end up in.

[silvermonte]

You may not be able to run in a GG in a timed matter, but I would bet there are plenty of other places to run autox that wouldnt give two hoots what you have, and would just be glad you showed up to have fun.

[TimeWarpF100]

Originally Posted by Twoblackmarks...

Where did that price come from? I would Guess like 2000-3000 maybe for an Electromotive. Haltech is maybe around the same. Megasquirt is cheaper, Motec on the other hand can probably end up expensive if you want to.. I think the hardest part to Control would be the transmission maybe?, the stand alone units can work inbetween Stock Control units.

But I see now that you are using the Complete frame from the newer car, so then it would probably be easier to use it as is. Just "bolt-on" a New body (Sort off.. )

And end up in that class you end up in.

Because its such a complex system having Twin Turbo's and direct injection nobody messes with it. I called and got a price. that is some serious $$