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Old 08-20-2023, 10:51 AM
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Have a LT4 8L90 connect and cruise pkg. in my 66 pickup. Had a drive idler seize which took out both belts. Parts coming next week. Part of a belt wrapped around the crank pulley. Took a lot of effort to pull out the belt. Delma- I could not get a small 3/16" piece of belt out from behind the hub. Do I leave or go through the process of pulling the hub?

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I guess nothing is easy. On closer inspection I still have a few threads of belt at a small relief at crank hub. Doesn't look like it is wrapped around hub. Just a small piece about 3/4 inch by about less than 1/8 thick. Kinda think once I run the engine it will spit out, hoping, maybe? Original question stands?

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If that piece of belt somehow got between the crank hub and seal is the only problem that comes to mind. Seems unlikely though. You could always do a quick fire up and see if it spits it out.
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If that piece of belt somehow got between the crank hub and seal is the only problem that comes to mind. Seems unlikely though. You could always do a quick fire up and see if it spits it out.
Parts should be here this week to do the idler. Thinking just that, fire it up, then recheck.
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Well nothing is easy. Reassembled accessory drive and replaced MAF plug. Started up and ran for a couple minutes. My little piece of belt spit out. Took for a 8 mile drive. Thought I could smell rubber. Checked under hood and all looked well. Came home (another 3 miles) and just when I started to back into the garage, large oil leak out of crank pulley.....sigh. Looks like I have to pull the pulley and replace the seal. Must have been some belt in there that I couldn't see. Anyone pull the pulley? Wondering the best way to lock the engine so I can loosen hub bolt?

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Well nothing is easy. Reassembled accessory drive and replaced MAF plug. Started up and ran for a couple minutes. My little piece of belt spit out. Took for a 8 mile drive. Thought I could smell rubber. Checked under hood and all looked well. Came home (another 3 miles) and just when I started to back into the garage, large oil leak out of crank pulley.....sigh. Looks like I have to pull the pulley and replace the seal. Must have been some belt in there that I couldn't see. Anyone pull the pulley? Wondering the best way to lock the engine so I can loosen hub bolt?
You can get a flywheel holding tool that replaces the starter. Here’s one example

https://www.amazon.com/ICT-Billet-Fl.../dp/B081VXWJJP

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You can get a flywheel holding tool that replaces the starter. Here’s one example

https://www.amazon.com/ICT-Billet-Fl.../dp/B081VXWJJP

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I like that, but its there and I'm here. I was looking at something little more crude. There is a small inspection cover for converter and flywheel on the A8 where I can place a bar which would catch a converter bolt to stop rotation.
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So to take the crank hub off I heated the bolt for 1 minute then hit with impact. Bolt came right out. Used a puller to take off hub. Pictured is the big piece of belting that got behind the hub and damaged the seal.
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That was my fear, but hoped the odds were on your side. Like I tell myself, "gave me something to do" lol.
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