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Old 08-21-2005, 06:56 PM
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Here are the pictures that Ed sent of the 21st CSM rollcage.

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Old 08-21-2005, 09:24 PM
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Looks great! I like how the down tubes go through the dash, makes the cage really disappear. I would probably skip the door bars, or maybe have them set real low like in the mule.
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By the looks of it they had faired it into the a pillar and eliminated the pillar molding. Am I correct?

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Old 08-22-2005, 10:19 AM
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The cage is certifiable for about anything you'd care to run NHRA,SCCA etc. That is why there are still compronmises in the hoop and the doorbars in regards to aesthetics.Jim tells me that as long as your strapped in he'll guarentee you'll walk away at 200mph. Seeing as he's built a myriad of cars that have hit the wall at 200mph I believe him. He won't make this guarentee with a kicked back hoop or a lower doorbar. He's also not prone to exaggeration.Thanks for the feedback. Ed
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:25 AM
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We have essentially made the bar part of the interiors A pillar trim.To give you an idea of how effective theis placement is I was out the day they installed the bars. I walked right past the car and then commented to Jim and Greg about when they were going to get around to it. The both gave me a blank stare and said they're in there!.Duhh... If you don't look closely they can be easily overlooked. I'm not always the most observant on the first pass anyway.lol.Ed
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hw repeatable is this rollbar going to be?? how many cars have one in it?? any feedback from people outside the company, looks real real nice.!!!
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:21 PM
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It has been repeated several times now in our shop.It'll be the kind of kit that will require someone to have a little experience with fabrication.I'm not talking alot of experience but because we find substantial differences in the measurements between all the cars we do it'll require some massaging but no more than most kits.Development continues and once we have enough experience we can let others know where the rocks and snakes are. Ed
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sounds great but now, wheres the pricing!!!! let us know
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:53 PM
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Did ya'll have to cut the front down bar in half in order for it to go through the dash?
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Old 08-23-2005, 01:52 PM
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We don't cut the downbar.As far aspricing there was such a clamoring for photos I advanced them earlier than planned for product rollout and so product pricing still hasn't been established because as Steve has said this is a very labor intensive kind of roll cage. We've installed them in cars but are still learning what it will take to offer this as a type of production piece. I haven't yet been able to establish pricing for a production kit since things are still in development.Ed
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