Matt clear coat, would you do it again?

[Moabdude]

My 69 Nova is at the paint shop and its about time to decide what color and finish I want on the car.

I am thinking of gun metal gray(with a little metallic) with black Mopar stripes on the hood.
As a finish I think its really cool to use matt clear coat. I saw an very expensive Mercedes who was painted gray metallic with matt clear coat. Very very cool!!

Does any one have any experience with matt finishes and would you do it again if you had to paint your car again?

Please advice.
Thanks

[no go nova]

I say go for it that color choice would be badass.

[Rick D]

Just remember you are clear coating the car twice!! You will have a lot more labor cost with doing a mat finish. The car needs to be cleared like normal with "shinny clear" then sanded flat and cleared with the mat clear.

Also it "WILL" break down over time, with the elements and environment the mat clear does not hold up as good as regular clear coat.

Those high end cars you see with the mat finish do not come with a paint warranty on the mat finish because if you get bird poop or you name it on them you can't just have it buffed out. It has to be repainted or you live with it. The Mercedes Benz has 10 page disclaimer that you sign when you buy the car so you understand what is covered and what is not.

Hope this helps, and I have not painted my car mat but I did stay at a Hoilday Inn last night

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Rick D

Those high end cars you see with the mat finish do not come with a paint warranty on the mat finish because if you get bird poop or you name it on them you can't just have it buffed out. It has to be repainted or you live with it.

That's a game changer!

[kennyd]

x2...

Originally Posted by Rick D

Just remember you are clear coating the car twice!! You will have a lot more labor cost with doing a mat finish. The car needs to be cleared like normal with "shinny clear" then sanded flat and cleared with the mat clear.

Also it "WILL" break down over time, with the elements and environment the mat clear does not hold up as good as regular clear coat.

Those high end cars you see with the mat finish do not come with a paint warranty on the mat finish because if you get bird poop or you name it on them you can't just have it buffed out. It has to be repainted or you live with it. The Mercedes Benz has 10 page disclaimer that you sign when you buy the car so you understand what is covered and what is not.

Hope this helps, and I have not painted my car mat but I did stay at a Hoilday Inn last night

[kush69]

I have sprayed spies hecker matt clear over basecoat with no problems ,single paint job, the drawback is that the paint job has to be pretty flawless no sand and polish on any dirt or runs and no spot repairs

[Rick D]

Originally Posted by kush69

I have sprayed spies hecker matt clear over basecoat with no problems ,single paint job, the drawback is that the paint job has to be pretty flawless no sand and polish on any dirt or runs and no spot repairs

^^^^^ That's why the paint company's recommend to clear it first then reclear with the mat clear. Also you do not have the same UV protection when you only clear it with mat clear.

I never said you couldn't just use mat clear I just stated the correct way to do it. As I said I did stay in a Holiday Inn!!

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Rick D

^^^^^ That's why the paint company's recommend to clear it first then reclear with the mat clear. Also you do not have the same UV protection when you only clear it with mat clear.

I never said you couldn't just use mat clear I just stated the correct way to do it. As I said I did stay in a Holiday Inn!!

What paint companies? PPG DCU2060 and Global D8115 mention nothing about pre clearing with gloss prior to matte clearing in their instructions.

[Rick D]

Originally Posted by Musclerodz

What paint companies? PPG DCU2060 and Global D8115 mention nothing about pre clearing with gloss prior to matte clearing in their instructions.

Sikkens, and Glasurit, and Standox. As for car manufacturers Hyundia with their Matte Veloster, BMW, and Mercedes Benz.

Mike if you are to ask your PPG rep they would tell you to do it this way. To use the product you do not have to clear with gloss clear first, but if you are doing a complete car you will not have the same UV protection if you only use Matte clear.

Also you will not get the same smooth finish just going matte clear directly over base coat as you will going over sanded clear coat!

As I said I have not painted "my" car with Matte but I have done quite a bit of testing and more then ten matte jobs at a few customers.

Again "can" you do it without clear coating with gloss clear YES, will it give you the best and most durable finish NO!

Just trying to help on a subject I know about, that's all.

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Rick D

Sikkens, and Glasurit, and Standox. As for car manufacturers Hyundia with their Matte Veloster, BMW, and Mercedes Benz.

Mike if you are to ask your PPG rep they would tell you to do it this way. To use the product you do not have to clear with gloss clear first, but if you are doing a complete car you will not have the same UV protection if you only use Matte clear.

Also you will not get the same smooth finish just going matte clear directly over base coat as you will going over sanded clear coat!

As I said I have not painted "my" car with Matte but I have done quite a bit of testing and more then ten matte jobs at a few customers.

Again "can" you do it without clear coating with gloss clear YES, will it give you the best and most durable finish NO!

Just trying to help on a subject I know about, that's all.

I have not used the other brands matte clear, only PPG. I would hope the PPG rep would not tell me to apply in a different manner stated in their instructions.

http://www.benspaintsupply.com/wp-co...lear+11+12.pdf

http://www.automotivepaintandequipme...and%20Flat.pdf