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Old 10-10-2013, 08:21 AM
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Default Red Bull's F1 advantage?

I am consistantly amazed year after year with the creativity and abilities of F1 engineers. The top teams are constantly challenged by the F1 regulators throwing sticks in their spokes so to speak. If you watched the Singapore GP Vettle's mechanical advantage was obvious, while he's obviously a great driving talent I don't believe he's that much better than Alonso.

I found this article very interesting:
http://jalopnik.com/red-bull-may-hav...olo-1442585020
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:21 AM
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I have been a huge F1 fan for years, but Vettel constantly winning is getting boring (for me anyways I'm a Ferrari fan). For sure his car has the advantage as did Schumacher those 5 years in a row he won for Ferrari. Apparently next year they are moving to turbo V6's meh. IMO The regulations are ruining the sport. The 21,000 rpm V10's were unbelievable to hear in person.
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The regulators can't beat the engineers, not saying it makes for good racing. Their creativity is impressive though.

That said I miss the real racing the IROC Series delivered.
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the 21000 rpm v10s were the pinnacle of the sport. nothing beat hearing one of those go down the front straight at indy
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as boring as it may be at the racing level, and I agree it does get boring, the technology gains trying to circumvent the rules eventually trickle down to your everyday drivers.
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I'm talking more on the fan level. It gets boring seeing the same driver win all the time. They made all these drastic regulaton changes to prevent Ferrari from continuing to win after 2005 and now its come back full circle with Redbull who's going to win 4 years in a row.
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I have been a huge F1 fan for years, but Vettel constantly winning is getting boring (for me anyways I'm a Ferrari fan). For sure his car has the advantage as did Schumacher those 5 years in a row he won for Ferrari. Apparently next year they are moving to turbo V6's meh. IMO The regulations are ruining the sport. The 21,000 rpm V10's were unbelievable to hear in person.
Same with Jimmy Johnson.

I agree the level that redbull is on is on a whole other level.

If notice the sports they are major sponsors of only lasts when they kick ass. Redbull did not last in Nascar as they went no where with their sponsorship dollars. Redbull dominates, F1, V8 supercars, offroad racing, quite a few others.

But I also think the engineers are just as important as the drivers talent, maybe even more important. And that just comes down to money from sponsors. The engineering that F1 has is awesome.
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Same with Jimmy Johnson.

I agree the level that redbull is on is on a whole other level.

If notice the sports they are major sponsors of only lasts when they kick ass. Redbull did not last in Nascar as they went no where with their sponsorship dollars. Redbull dominates, F1, V8 supercars, offroad racing, quite a few others.

But I also think the engineers are just as important as the drivers talent, maybe even more important. And that just comes down to money from sponsors. The engineering that F1 has is awesome.
It also helps that they don't have spending caps either. The money Redbull spends as a whole on sponsorships at all levels has got to be mind boggling.
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Jimmie Johnson doesn't have a performance advantage he has a skill advantage and a crew chief that has great strategies. There are 15 cars with a real chance to win every week
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Sebastian definitely has been an impressive driver to watch. His ability to get out front and gap the other cars so quickly is amazing. Sometimes I wonder if he and the car are so far ahead of the field technology-wise, that he gets that gap and then sand bags so it doesn't raise any eyebrows. He consistently gets a 2-2.5sec in the first lap, and then maintains it. Perhaps they just tweak the fuel trim each lap to keep the pack in range of him to make it seem the following cars are relativity fast to him?
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