My Dry Sumped 358ci - Lateral-g Forums

TravisB · #1 03-13-2007, 09:40 PM

My engine showed up today...Finally. I think it came pony express

haha. But regardless it's here and it's everything the the seller said it was and more. My Question to you all is this: There are some people that have given there opinions on the dry sump oil system which I want to retain. I have heard everything from it wont work, to it will but you have to do this and that(etc), to how are you going to hide all those lines! Has anyone done this before am I crazy for wanting to keep it? Is it worth it? I want it for the cool factor and the simple fact that not many people have it.....

all opinions welcome except marty and kenny....you two have already voiced yours...lol

can some one resize and host pics for me? they wont attach....

**XcYZ** · #2 03-13-2007, 09:46 PM

Travis, I can help you with the pics, sent them to [email protected] To attach them, they have to be no more than 1024x768 and 160kb.

I say KEEP the dry sump. Not that I'm biased or anything.

TravisB · #3 03-13-2007, 10:07 PM

keep in mind it is not an SB2 motor. Its and 18 degree 9.1 bush series motor

ArisESQ · #4 03-13-2007, 10:47 PM

just wondering, but whats involved in converting to a dry sump?

TravisB · #5 03-13-2007, 10:53 PM

a pan, pump, filters, 8 million feet of braided line, oil tank, breather tank, pullys, drive belt, etc etc Oh and being smarter than me to plan it all out so it works and doesn;t burn up the motor

EFI · #6 03-14-2007, 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=My Question to you all is this: There are some people that have given there opinions on the dry sump oil system which I want to retain. I have heard everything from it wont work, to it will but you have to do this and that(etc), to how are you going to hide all those lines! Has anyone done this before am I crazy for wanting to keep it? Is it worth it? [/QUOTE]

I'd said keep it.
A Dry sump system will keep oil where it needs to be. There's no oil pooling during hard acceleration, braking or turning. And consistent oil pressure is never a bad thing.
Plus you should get a couple of extra ponies from it.

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jsr69 · #7 03-14-2007, 05:38 PM

Travis

I say keep it for all the reasons you've stated, the wow factor, and it's different. I ran dry sump systems on my asphalt midget for years. Once you take the time to understand them, they are pretty basic and simple.

I suggest that you mount the dry sump tank as close as possible to the pump to keep from having a zillion feet of hose, you will only need a thouand feet (LOL). Also, the install will look cleaner with less hose running around the engine compartment.

Another suggestion is to run a bright idiot light on your oil pressure. With a wet sump, the drive for the oil pump is the distributor. If you lose the drive for the oil pump, you lose ignition and the engine shuts off without starving the engine for oil. With a belt drive dry sump pump, you could lose the drive belt and the engine would keep running right up to the point that disaster happens. That's the purpose of the light, to let you know instantaneously that you have a problem. On the midget, we ran the fuel pump off the back of the dry sump pump, so if the oil pump quit turning, so did the fuel pump and the engine shut off. Just something to think about.

Mean 69 · #8 03-14-2007, 06:26 PM

I'd also say keep it! They are far better systems, and if you already have the expensive components (and they are expensive), you are way ahead of the game. They do have some additional things to tend to, such as making sure the engine is primed prior to starting, but once you get it all sorted, you will have a constant flow of clean oil at all times, period. Can't say the same for many/most wet sump systems.

My buddy has the same engine in his 67 race Camaro, it is a terrific piece, and you can rev the snot out of them to put it mildly. Great purchase!

Mark

blazer_man · #9 03-14-2007, 09:59 PM

When I ran late models I used both wet and dry sumps, the dry sumps were a ton better at both power production and motor longevity (also better at disposing of spare $). You can run better oil cooling and filtering. Just watch the lines and make damn sure you got it all functional and tight before you run it, when something goes wrong it goes REALLY wrong. I like the idea of tying the oil and fuel pumps on a common drive we always ran mechanical pumps, definitely run a light and/or shutoff relay. Even at 9:1 that busch motor is gonna be pretty impressive and bulletproof. Great systems overall plus you get the cool factor! I say definitely keep it!

TravisB · #10 03-14-2007, 10:05 PM

thanks guys....that has pretty much been the answer I am gettingfrom everyone. There is a local SCCA racer down the street from the shop he came by tonight and eligthened me on several aspects of it. I think it is going to be pretty cool. I am planning on mounting the tank on the p/s firewall in some form or fashion....I will have to start hunting dry sump tanks here before long the tank that came with it is HUGE.....and will definatly not fit.

again thanks for the input