who gets credit? - Lateral-g Forums

bill amsley · #1 03-24-2008, 09:47 PM

if an artist draws a car, and someone else builds it who gets credit for the design? i see a lot of cars w/artist renderings i always wonder who to toast the artist or the builder?

ccracin · #2 03-24-2008, 10:23 PM

I think you have to toast both. I can only speak for my situation. The artist we are working with is extremely talented not only at design, but listening as well. (Ben Hermance) The reason I say both is he truly uses what the customer likes/wants (listening) and puts that together along with his touches to come up with a final product. So in alot of cases it is a team effort. I am sure there are times when someone say here's the car I have, go to it. Ben also does cars on his own. You can see some on this sight. These designs are his alone, but thay all have to be built. You then have to look at execution of the design. This is a team effort as well. A builder can only truly reproduce the design if they are talented enough and if the design is capable of being built. Alot can be put on paper that will be dang near impossible to make work in the real world. So in the end for a complete car, rendering to finished piece I think it is truly a team effort. JMO

By the way I used Ben as an example because we are working with him. All the artists on this board are extremely talented. Maybe some of them will give you some input.

Later,

Flash · #3 03-24-2008, 10:26 PM

I have seen many different versions of who gets the credit. If Chip Foose draws the car he gets the credit but I have seen a car drawn by Chip after the car was in full bare metal, who gets the credit then? The builder or the artist? Ten points is you can name the car in question. I don't believe in a credit as to who owns the rights to the car by just drawing something, but then again I'm just a photographer.

**Steve1968LS2** · #4 03-24-2008, 11:08 PM

Just because an artist did a rendering doesn't mean they designed the car. They could have just followed the styling cues of the car's owner.

However, if the artist did design the car then they should get the credit. Or at least share the credit.

ProdigyCustoms · #5 03-24-2008, 11:40 PM

Steve is exactly correct. Very rarely does a artist doing my rendering do the design. Most times when I contact a artist, I / my customer have a clear vision of what we / he wants and I beat on the artist until I get it, LOL! This is not to say I do not listen to the artist input. I may tell the artist to give me some different ideas for a graphic, color combos, after I give my own ideas, then look at their twist on the idea. But I would not consider that "designing" if I use ideas from the artist either.

With that said, I am not oppsed to building something of the artist design, I just have not had the situation / customer to allow it to happen yet. But I have seen quite a few designs I would love to build, Just need to find the right customer!

**Spiffav8** · #6 03-25-2008, 01:28 AM

I get the credit, but only when things go wrong....oh wait that's called blame.

Vegas69 · #7 03-25-2008, 01:35 AM

I had my rendering done to reinforce my vision for the car. That said, now that the car is mostly done exterior wise, I already plan to make a tweak from the rendering.

Tony@AirRideTech · #8 03-26-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms

Steve is exactly correct. Very rarely does a artist doing my rendering do the design. Most times when I contact a artist, I / my customer have a clear vision of what we / he wants and I beat on the artist until I get it, LOL! This is not to say I do not listen to the artist input. I may tell the artist to give me some different ideas for a graphic, color combos, after I give my own ideas, then look at their twist on the idea.

"That is until your artist is telling you that he will not draw that convertible fire chicken with camo paint and 38" ground hawgs....."

Flash · #9 03-25-2008, 11:47 PM

It's interesting to here various artists thoughts on this subject. The underlying cause for the question of 'who gets the credit" I think ultimately comes down to who owns the rights to the design and like it or not it's the artist that owns the intellectual right to the rendering, I believe. Credit may put money on the table once but rights can put money on the table for years to come. But then again, I'm just a photographer.

**XcYZ** · #10 03-25-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash

It's interesting to here various artists thoughts on this subject. The underlying cause for the question of 'who gets the credit" I think ultimately comes down to who owns the rights to the design and like it or not it's the artist that owns the intellectual right to the rendering, I believe. Credit may put money on the table once but rights can put money on the table for years to come. But then again, I'm just a photographer.

Excellent point, Scott. When I have artwork/renderings created, it's for the purpose of promoting Lateral-g. I have every intention of using it for t-shirts, posters, decals, webpage headers, etc. The issue of who owns the rights was brought up a long time ago by a person who's work is featured here, and as far as I'm concerned, I contracted the artist to bring my ideas to life for that very purpose. The idea that I'd have to pay the artist a royalty fee for every t-shirt, poster, calendar, etc, was not a popular one.

I think anyone that has renderings, illustrations, and/or design work done needs to discuss this point ahead of time.