Project Sleeping Beauty... 1970 TA

[tazzz2_ca]

Well we're at it again LOL,,,, Carbon Kustoms has commissioned Scott to do another Bird "Project Sleeping Beauty".... I wanted to challenge Scott to build an attractive yet understated 70 TA Pro-touring build that the average guy could afford.... The car will utilize a stock sub-frame with readily available Ride Tech suspension components and Wilwood brakes.... We will attempt to make some of the hard choices and balance where money is spent and cut as closely as possible to build a very good road map for others that may be considering doing a early second gen....

Of course there will be a certain basis when it comes to Carbon panels,,, but hey that's what you get when I'm financing the build and it's my rules right,,, that is unless someone else wants to step up and purchase the build as we go along LOL...
Anyways without further a due,,, Project Sleeping beauty

[Firebirdsteve]

[Jtomas801]

Sounds awesome, it will be done in 3 weeks right? Can't wait to see how the build goes.


Jon

[Fitz78ta]

can't wait to see how this one turns out.

[camcojb]

those are beautiful cars. And the carbon pieces will more than negate the extra weight they carry in the front end versus a Camaro.

Love it, keep us posted.

[Payton King]

stop building cars can you Albert?

Looking forward to another great build!

[ELVIS_PRESLEY]

Originally Posted by tazzz2_ca

Well we're at it again LOL,,,, Carbon Kustoms has commissioned Scott to do another Bird "Project Sleeping Beauty".... I wanted to challenge Scott to build an attractive yet understated 70 TA Pro-touring build that the average guy could afford.... The car will utilize a stock sub-frame with readily available Ride Tech suspension components and Wilwood brakes.... We will attempt to make some of the hard choices and balance where money is spent and cut as closely as possible to build a very good road map for others that may be considering doing a early second gen....

Of course there will be a certain basis when it comes to Carbon panels,,, but hey that's what you get when I'm financing the build and it's my rules right,,, that is unless someone else wants to step up and purchase the build as we go along LOL...
Anyways without further a due,,, Project Sleeping beauty

Our definition of "what an average guy can afford" is WAY different! Beautiful car!

[tazzz2_ca]

Originally Posted by ELVIS_PRESLEY

Our definition of "what an average guy can afford" is WAY different! Beautiful car!

First off thank you for the compliment....

I tried to create a car within reason that the average guy buying a second gen F-body could aspire too.... The Carbon Panels are what I do so please don't crucify me on that that (you can use stock steel in the place of my Carbon panels),,, otherwise think about what has been done so far:

- An LS-1 drive line take out (rebuilt)
- A Ride-tech suspension kit (a Hell of a scalable kit and awesome value)
- Wilwood's entry brake system (their new entry kit, again great value)
- A stock sub-frame smoothed
- Stock interior
- Time spent to detail the parts (sub-frame, firewall, etc)
- Year One wheels (Great bang for the buck & affordable to say the least)
- The new BFG Sport Comp 2 tires (a Hell for a bang for the buck tire)

If you have a better balance that offers better performance, reliability, repeatability, and is budget conscious please chime in with a thread and offer it to others here so that they can benefit from your experience/s... Everyone has a budget, some greater than others... You have to break the bank a little if you're going to attempt to build a pro-touring car in my opinion. The Second Gen's are pretty darn good cars right from the factory and if you are looking for notable handling/driving improvements I can't think of where you'll find a more cost conscious balance....

Anyways I don't want this to sound like a rant,,, rather a challenge to put your knowledge and experience out there for other to benefit from... Who knows maybe you have a better option that is a more affordable approach and I'm all ears to that too....

[ELVIS_PRESLEY]

Originally Posted by tazzz2_ca

First off thank you for the compliment....

I tried to create a car within reason that the average guy buying a second gen F-body could aspire too.... The Carbon Panels are what I do so please don't crucify me on that that (you can use stock steel in the place of my Carbon panels),,, otherwise think about what has been done so far:

- An LS-1 drive line take out (rebuilt)
- A Ride-tech suspension kit (a Hell of a scalable kit and awesome value)
- Wilwood's entry brake system (their new entry kit, again great value)
- A stock sub-frame smoothed
- Stock interior
- Time spent to detail the parts (sub-frame, firewall, etc)
- Year One wheels (Great bang for the buck & affordable to say the least)
- The new BFG Sport Comp 2 tires (a Hell for a bang for the buck tire)

If you have a better balance that offers better performance, reliability, repeatability, and is budget conscious please chime in with a thread and offer it to others here so that they can benefit from your experience/s... Everyone has a budget, some greater than others... You have to break the bank a little if you're going to attempt to build a pro-touring car in my opinion. The Second Gen's are pretty darn good cars right from the factory and if you are looking for notable handling/driving improvements I can't think of where you'll find a more cost conscious balance....

Anyways I don't want this to sound like a rant,,, rather a challenge to put your knowledge and experience out there for other to benefit from... Who knows maybe you have a better option that is a more affordable approach and I'm all ears to that too....

I think you took this the wrong way, my comment wasn't a shot at you. I've been looking at 2nd Gen's a while now because 1st Gen's are out of my price range, I've given up on that dream and I want something different anyway. I'm all for it and I have the same thoughts as you, 2nd Gens are much easier and cheaper to get to the pro-touring level...but I'm the average dude, I can't afford to spend $60-100K.

I'm just a shade tree mechanic, I can handle bolt on parts but no way could I do an LS swap or any bodywork. All I was saying was this car is not an average man's car...that or it could be that I'm a bottom feeder and way below the average man.

[tazzz2_ca]

Originally Posted by ELVIS_PRESLEY

I think you took this the wrong way, my comment wasn't a shot at you. I've been looking at 2nd Gen's a while now because 1st Gen's are out of my price range, I've given up on that dream and I want something different anyway. I'm all for it and I have the same thoughts as you, 2nd Gens are much easier and cheaper to get to the pro-touring level...but I'm the average dude, I can't afford to spend $60-100K.

I'm just a shade tree mechanic, I can handle bolt on parts but no way could I do an LS swap or any bodywork. All I was saying was this car is not an average man's car...that or it could be that I'm a bottom feeder and way below the average man.

Elvis,,, nobody is talking bottom feeder here bud and it certainly wasn't my inference in any way I hope fully understand that....

This is not a 60 to 100K car buddy,,, you could build this yourself for around 25-35K or buy it for 45-50 range and that is roughly about as affordable as a balanced as a second gen pro-touring build gets...

If you start with a clean shell that doesn't need paint (they can be found for about 10-13K) and follow the build otherwise... I'll bet you could be into this for a lot cheaper than you think.... there are LS engine mount conversion kits readily available and the wire harness is stock sent off to Spear Tech for update/conversion... Complete LS take outs come up for the 2,500-3,000 range if you're patient... I'm telling you patience and sweat equity will do wonders,, don't dismiss the option,,, or your own abilities so quickly....