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Old 02-07-2013, 04:30 PM
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thanks Dave for the link - those plate coolers are pretty cool and it makes sense putting those in the tank and thanks for the note on SS v. aluminum v. pressure.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:04 PM
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5/8" 6061 .035 wall aluminum tube is good to over 1000 psi. Thick walls are not required for aluminum tube for engine cooling. In fact, aluminum is a better choice because it coefficient of heat transfer is much higher than SS.

Power steering with its 1500 psi requirements is a different story... that's where the thick walls are required and steel or stainless is the better choice.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:29 AM
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Yeah, but the PS cooler typically runs on the return side anyways, so AL should be fine there, too.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:18 AM
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Good point. SS is only required on the high pressure side of the pump, and that's usually hose anyway to allow engine movement.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:35 AM
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That is a very nice cooling setup.

In our application, max power/component life was the goal, so we intentionally separated the block cooling from component cooling. We would cool everything independently with the goal of not introducing more heat into the block coolant so we could use way less water pump speed to do the same job..... Free power. One of the advantages (among many), was the tendency to avoid runaway coolant temps. Once the engine got above it's ideal temp there would be a "saturation" problem where everything overheated when we relied on engine coolant for everything.

Obviously we went through some details during the engine build to maximize power with lighter oil. Like I said earlier, the oil temps were designed to stay at 190°, and the coolant temp was 230°(yes,that was intentional).

I am curious about the "cold oil" statements....Have any of you guys had some sort of problem/experience with oil not heating once you adjusted the weight? I had heard guys say it, but had always written it off as "magazine theory", much like the 75% I/E flow theory. I honestly never ran into that condition, and really thought we had carried oil cooling to the most extreme level. Keeping in mind that we used piston squirters, so our oil may have came to temp quicker than some
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5/8" 6061 .035 wall aluminum tube is good to over 1000 psi. Thick walls are not required for aluminum tube for engine cooling. In fact, aluminum is a better choice because it coefficient of heat transfer is much higher than SS.

Power steering with its 1500 psi requirements is a different story... that's where the thick walls are required and steel or stainless is the better choice.
This is where I was going with it regarding oil cooling but let it go I have twin, large, off-road coolers on my race car, both are aluminum, pretty standard "radiators". Haven't had a problem in 6 years of beating the hell out of my car with a dry sump system (I limit my dry sump to 65 psi).
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I finished my hood bonding the hood vents into it. All raw exposed carbon fiber.






I had the vents laid up to match the "V" pattern.

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Very nice Mark.
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