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Old 04-04-2014, 04:51 PM
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"A search dog waits by the feet of Washington National Guardsmen to be washed after working the debris field created by the Oso mudslide. Seventy Guardsmen from across Washington have been activated to help with search and recovery efforts in the wake of Saturday's mudslide."
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:23 PM
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:48 PM
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The mud is highly toxic.... as it's a slurry of gas and diesel and every chemical stored in peoples homes and garages...


As usual - there's been much more detail here locally about the "hazards" to the searchers and the dogs etc... but there's nothing you can do about it.


Such a sad story and I feel terrible for everyone involved.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:32 PM
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There is definitely nothing good about that situation. If the rumors are true about the slide potential being known and concealed before the development was built it's indescribable.
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Old 04-05-2014, 12:23 AM
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I've been up to Darrington a few times since the slide. It's hard to find words to descibe the power that was unleashed, unreal seeing what's happened. What's more impressive than what Mother Nature has done is the power of the people of the community.

They have a long road ahead of them and life won't be "normal" for quite awhile.

Sieg, that hill has been nicknamed "slide hill" longer then I've been alive. We'll see what happens. The finger pointing and blame is mostly media driven.

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Old 04-05-2014, 06:30 AM
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FWIW-Here's one news org view on this tragedy...
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"Officials in denial on Oso slide."

"It’s true the government can’t save you from natural disaster. But it can try a lot harder than it did before the slide."

Northwesterners are stoics about natural disaster. When you live with big nature up in your face all the time, maybe it’s not so surprising when it sometimes strikes.

“If the hillsides were going to slough away, they were going to slough away,” said one homeowner who survived the Oso slide. “That’s kind of what happens around here.”

The British call this the stiff upper lip. It helps in recovering from unimaginable tragedy, which is what Snohomish County clearly is facing now. This could be the worst natural disaster around here since Mount St. Helens erupted 34 years ago, killing 57. Horrifically, the Oso slide may exceed that death toll.

So it’s understandable not to try to reason why. We acknowledge we’re not in charge. Nature is.

The Oso homeowner added, people shouldn’t expect the government to prevent such disasters. They’re inevitable.

“That’s like saying the river is going to flood,” he said.

And yet all it took was a few Seattle Times reporters looking through records for one day to find that this was no bolt from the heavens. There had been landslides at this spot repeatedly — in 1949, 1951, 1967 and 2006. Plus there was constant flooding, in which the rambunctious Stillaguamish would “channel migrate” — jump its banks to chart a new course, often eating again at the unstable hillside.

Geologists specifically called out the chances of “a large catastrophic failure” of the hillside. These warnings weren’t ignored by government officials so much as filed away. Perhaps with some of that “it’s kind of what happens around here” inertia.

They talked about stricter development rules or buying out the Oso homes. Instead, they continued to green-light new homes. Residents knew some of the risks, but whether they knew the full slate of warnings isn’t clear.

We all live on a major earthquake fault. So we hand ourselves over to the whims of the nature gods every day. But this was a small collection of homes facing discrete, recurring threats. Something could have been done, if there had been the will.

I knew a neighborhood like it, in Maple Valley, called Rainbow Bend. As a reporter I covered a massive flood there in 1990, with waist-deep water coursing through living rooms of some houses. It flooded again in 1995, and 1996. I returned a fourth time in 2006, and asked the people, still there after all these floods, if this wasn’t the cliché definition of insanity.

They laughed and answered with that same “river’s gonna do what rivers do” stoicism. I admired their grit; it helped them slog on. But I also thought: Why are they allowed to live here?

They aren’t anymore. King County launched a controversial program in the 1990s to stop fighting nature by buying out homes like this. It took 20 years, but they finally got the last of 60 Rainbow Bend homes moved or torn down in 2010. Last fall they dismantled the levee, unchaining the Cedar River to run wild if it wants (this is supposed to ease downstream flooding as well).

Politically, this wasn’t easy. The hand of big government feels heaviest when it’s knocking at your door, urging you to sell and get out. It also cost taxpayers more than $10 million. But to King County’s credit, they stuck with it. They didn’t just stolidly wait for the next disaster. For the cycle to repeat itself.

The families of Oso need room to deal with grief however they see fit. But when Snohomish County officials say the hillside above Oso was “considered very safe” and that the slide “came out of nowhere,” that wasn’t keeping a stiff upper lip in the face of tragedy. That was denial.
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I've been up to Darrington a few times since the slide. It's hard to find words to descibe the power that was unleashed, unreal seeing what's happened. What's more impressive than what Mother Nature has done is the power of the people of the community.

They have a long road ahead of them and life won't be "normal" for quite awhile.

Sieg, that hill has been nicknamed "slide hill" longer then I've been alive. We'll see what happens. The finger pointing and blame is mostly media driven.

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I am a personal friend of Dbasher. He spent the whole week gathering supplies, gear, money, food, etc and drove it up there to the workers. Proud of you.
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Thanks buddy! Good to see you sign in over here, lots of good people....watch out for that Weld fella.

About the slide. Imagine with one event, you've just lost multiple friends and a few family members. Not only that but your kids have lost their friends and family members, how are you supposed to deal with that. The people of this area don't rely on anyone, they dig in and make things happen. They hunt, fish, farm and log the area. They take care of one another. The logging crew that I'm in touch with pulled off a paying job (190 miles away) that Saturday and have been working with their own gear and up until last Thursday their own fuel. Why? Because that's their community and it needed to be done. If their story could be told everyone should read it!

This being a car site, I'll get back on topic.

The "mother hen" of the crew, reminds me of my aunt, has a bitchin lil Falcon. Not sure of the year but its the right year if that makes sense. I'm going to surprise her with a set of finned valve covers I've had kicking around forever. They aren't new, actually they're vintage M/T made in Japan...not China. I know she'll get a kick out of em and be something she will use. I'm headed up again this weekend with my two boys, I'll snap a couple pictures of it.


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