68 dodge dart 440

[57hemicuda]

Love those old Mopar cross rams,you had to watch those most were designed for the Max Wedge heads and had a much taller port opening.they would bolt on,but the ports didn't match.Love the use of old retro parts,really cool.Ron

[joe440]

We got our other dart in the garage and started working on the center council, its gonna be fiberglass then painted the color of the car with the speakers on each side. Man is it nice working on the inside of a car when its convertible. Heres the first steps.

[joe440]

Heres a few pics of the council, we switched up the front cause the round look just wasn't looking good. Also added an arm rest/storage compartment.


Paint date Dec. 5th

[joe440]

well the first attempt at the center console with that grill cloth was a failure but got it right this time, just layed some fiber glass cloth down and put the hardner on it and let it sat over night, then stapled them to the sides of the console, not we got to cut the extra off add some layers, sand and paint

[HaulinAsp]

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

Love those old Mopar cross rams,you had to watch those most were designed for the Max Wedge heads and had a much taller port opening.they would bolt on,but the ports didn't match.Love the use of old retro parts,really cool.Ron

Wrong. The Long Ram will bolt up to their respective cylinder heads. This manifold design was available on the B engine- 361 and the RB engine being the 413. Both versions would bolt up to your standard 361/383/400 B engines and the 413/426Wedge/440 RB engines.

Now the true MAX WEDGE engines had the heads with the larger port openings, among other differences ( 4 bolt Valve Covers ) ect....

[joe440]

thanks for that info, was getting curious about that.

[57hemicuda]

Originally Posted by HaulinAsp

Wrong. The Long Ram will bolt up to their respective cylinder heads. This manifold design was available on the B engine- 361 and the RB engine being the 413. Bolt versions would bolt up to your standard 361/383/400 B engines and the 413/426Wedge/440 RB engines.

Now the true MAX WEDGE engines had the heads with the larger port openings, among other differences ( 4 bolt Valve Covers ) ect....

If I'm wrong I stand corrected,Was it the standard cross ram,that had the tall ports for the Max Wedge heads.It was years ago {like twenty}that I had the mis fit issue on those parts.Just trying to give a freindly warning.Ron

[98ssnova]

very nice can't wait to see the the intakes polished

[HaulinAsp]

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

If I'm wrong I stand corrected,Was it the standard cross ram,that had the tall ports for the Max Wedge heads.It was years ago {like twenty}that I had the mis fit issue on those parts.Just trying to give a freindly warning.Ron

The Max Wedge engines (1962,63,and 64) Stages 1, Stage 2 and Stage 3 versions had the taller port openings than the standard wedge ports. Along with the taller ports they included a slightly larger valve dia. to take full advantage of the Cross Rams effective upper RPM band. The manifolds shown above are called Long Rams- not Cross Rams. You could use the Long Ram style on your standard Wedge Engine cylinder head- example- #-906 heads, 452 heads, even the Edelbrock Aluminum Wedge cylinder heads,ect.

The Long Ram engine package was more of a low rpm version, or for better description- street version.



I too have a set of these Long Rams and have toyed with making a simillar style set up to utilize 2 turbos and injection.

I hope this clears things up.

[57hemicuda]

Your right,it was this cross ram i was thinking of.Ron