FINALLY!! Headers for LSX+DSE combination

[Rybar]

Those are some nice ass headers

[awr68]

They look nice!
What I love about the LS motors is the placement of the header bolts...mine are a bitch with the 1 7/8" tubes on a gen 2 SBC!

[67ragtp]

Joni,

If you already have the engine frame mounts from DSE, they have to go back for the pipes to fit correctly. Kyle told me the modified frame mounts move the engine 1 inch back and then the pipes will fit well. I should have a set next week, will post some pics when I recieve them.

Rich

[XLexusTech]

2K for headers is crazy, even if they are SS. just my Humble opinion AND I am cheap.... What the diff between these and the ATS ones which are prices similar.

These expensive extras is what turns me off about the LS platform which in my opinion is a Superior Platform to Gen 1. The extras cost so much$$$$$

[67ragtp]

I wouldn't say they are priced similar. The ATS is a true custom made road race header and costs 3k. Thats not 2k(DSE). Custom built pipes are in the 1200 to 1500 range in mild steel, add high quality stainless/o2 bungs/v band hardware you quickly surpass 2k. My Dan Lemons big block chevy pipes were over a grand in mild steel.

To get this stuff to fit your custom chassis is the hard part, Its pretty expensive, I see your point to a certain degree. But the additional costs of the fuel injection and associated electronics, serpentine accessory systems, and custom made pipes can all add up the same on a gen 1 as well. I have a full FAST system on my sb and it cost a bloody fortune to set up. If you do a vintage air frontrunner sysem on a sb its gonna be bucks.

Tell you what I just picked up a complete serp system from gm performance parts for 450 bucks for my ls7, I feel like I got the bargain of the century, it certainly doesn't look the best but it has a stock looking appeal.

Rich

[amaronut]

That's a good price. Try buying materials and making them for that kind of money. Good materials will cost $1200 - $1500 and labor for a custom set would be anywhere from 60 - 80 hrs if you know what your doing.

[XLexusTech]

In my opinion DSE targets the high end customer. Their prices are high in part to reflect "exclusivity". To apply the same principle it's what makes a two pieces of clothing, say a dress made of the same material 5000.00 for one and 50 for the other when they are made of the same material.

The fancy designer carries with it the exclusivity and presumption of wealth of its owner or higher quality of the part. Personally I don't buy into the theory that just because it cost more it must be better. Many do, and they keep the demand high enough that the prices are supported.

Two more points;

Their are options for the average Joe and I look everywhere for options, including the used parts bin and other vendors.

DSE should be able to benefit from innovation, when their first to market they should have a higher in price