3 link suspension

[Jasper Jones]

Along with the above questions, how much of the floor would have to be modified in a Camaro to run your three link set-up? Can I still use my factory back seat? Thanks
-Jason

[Mean 69]

Without question, the early Mustang leave a LOT to be desired in terms of chassis rigidity. For serious track duty, a full cage and "real" subframe connectors are in order. I know exactly what you are talking about in regards to the front frame rails, there are some super thin extensions that come off of the front frame horns, kind of silly how they did that, but the cars weren't designed to rip through turns with contemporary tires, as you stated. The good thing is that even though you will add weight to stiffen things up, at least the car is light to begin with.

Pricing on the setup is not set in stone at this point, we have a good idea where it will be, but haven't firmly set retail pricing as of today. I will say that it will be competitively priced relative to other "like" systems that are available, when you consider everything that is included (all brackets and hardware, fully welded rear end housing assembly, coil-over shocks and springs). This setup will not be for everyone, you will need to do some cutting of the car to install the forward crossmember, and to make room for the upper link. You can use "a" back seat, but not "the" stock back seat, at least not in the first gen Camaros. The seat will require split seat bottoms, like in a secong gen F body, or a late model F body, in order to clear the tunnel extension box (for the upper link).

Our opinion is that this setup offers the highest performance potential of any commercially available rigid axle suspension system on the market, period. We are very close to finishing the product brochure, so hopefully some of the questions will be answered in that text. Also, we hope to have at least a temporary website on line in the next day or two with more info, and more pic's. Sorry for the general comments at this time, very specific info is coming soon, in great detail.

Mark

[David Pozzi]

Mark,
Great stuff, it looks like a really good system. I'll look you guys up at SEMA.
On the subject of back seats, if you install a roll bar with seatbelt anchor cross brace, you won't ever want to have a back seat passenger in the car, it just isn't safe having them sit back there with a bunch of tubes right in front of them.
My wife's 73 Camaro has an Autopower roll bar and back seat but I can't even get back there to clean the rear window let alone sit there.
David

[Damn True]

I just tried to visualize getting to my back window to clean it with the cage I am planning and I threw out my back thinking about it.

Back seat? Guess I wont be having one.

Anyone know if you can buy carpet remnants from ACC large enough to cover the rear firewall?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I just tried to visualize getting to my back window to clean it with the cage I am planning and I threw out my back thinking about it.

you know why? its 11:30 pm....get some sleep! LOL you could do an anti roll bar of some sorts...but it won't be sanction legal.
Mark, design looks good. BTW what ws wrong with your welding? LOL
second thought how would one get a "new" design sanction legal? just up late

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I know this is off base but im not afraid of being black flagged...
for Race-rods concerns for lack of early stang support. Having the creator of lateral dynamics an early car owner can be a blessing for us. So being patient may reap great rewards.
Im local to Griggs and you must have caught them on a bad day? But they do tend to be who do you know types so f em too...for a front suspension try these guys, im sure you saw the link on pt but i'll post it here for those who don't frequent it anymore. I too wanted to improve the Ford Chevy II design by grafting a QA1 or Grantenelli style tube front end so I can use off the shelf tubular arms. It looks like it could be done so I may look into it.
As far as the rear its very close to a Camaro rear so a couple changes could yeild a 3 link for Mustangs.Time will tell. Vin

[Damn True]

Yeah, it is late. The cage I am planning is going to be a lot like the one in Stevo's car, but the a-pillars will go through the dash, and the door bars will be a bit different.

Total Control Products is building a pretty wild track car http://www.totalcontrolproducts.com/...ecar/main.html might be good place to look in terms of a project headed in that direction.

Maier apparently has some stuff for the early 'stangs as well.

http://www.maierracing.com/index.html

I dunno about their early stuff, but their late model stang stuff is pretty widely used by the guys racing in NASA.