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camaro1969 · #1 09-24-2009, 08:38 PM

also, i have pin gauges, maybe 50 of them, one is a classic snap on one, maybe worth something now LOL..

ill keep you guys updated, i now owe, 2 beers (vegas69, 70rs) and a coffee(greg)

**GregWeld** · #2 09-24-2009, 08:43 PM

Okay -- hope that works for you... if not... I'll come up there myself!! In the interest of good international relations. LOL

Vegas69 · #3 09-24-2009, 09:14 PM

No problem man, I've been there done that and if you get everything within spec it will work flawless. Remember that you have + and _ of the spec. The best way to check it is go or no go.

For instance on your ring gear clearance, take a .060 feeler gauge and a .140 feeler gauge. The .060 should go and the .140 should not. The same will hold trud on the pinion back lash. You will need to stack your feeler gauges for the ring gear clearance.

camaro1969 · #4 09-24-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

No problem man, I've been there done that and if you get everything within spec it will work flawless. Remember that you have + and _ of the spec. The best way to check it is go or no go.

For instance on your ring gear clearance, take a .060 feeler gauge and a .140 feeler gauge. The .060 should go and the .140 should not. The same will hold trud on the pinion back lash. You will need to stack your feeler gauges for the ring gear clearance.

ccracin · #5 09-25-2009, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro1969

also, i have pin gauges, maybe 50 of them, one is a classic snap on one, maybe worth something now LOL..

ill keep you guys updated, i now owe, 2 beers (vegas69, 70rs) and a coffee(greg)

Hey I'm the one that came up with checking the engaged clearance of the pinion gear in the first place!!

Just kidding. I'm glad you are on your way to solving the problem. I only mention the paper clip as most people don't have or know where to get pin gauges. The "medium size" is just a rule of thumb to get you a usable clearance.

I am however concerned with one of your statements. When the starter you showed first is mounted, the pinion should not be extended nor engaged without actuating the starter solenoid. If it is, I believe you have an issue with that starter. The picture you show in this link http://www.transmissionadapters.com/...i%20torque.jpg is showing the pinion in it's retracted position for this type of starter. When you bolt it up, you should not have to shim it much to get the .100 clearance. It should absolutely not be engaging the flywheel. Can you get some photos? Unless I misunderstood, that shouldn't be.

Vegas69 · #6 09-25-2009, 07:49 AM

Chad.....my mini starter is almost identical to the one you posted a link to. I had almost no clearance between the pinion and flywheel. The shim is about .100 thick.

camaro1969 · #7 09-25-2009, 08:37 AM

when mounted the unengaged pinion is TOUCHING the flywheel, therefore i have to shim the so that armature sits back and therefore sits my pinion further back, this will make it so that my pinion will only touch the the flywheel when engaged.

I will take pictures tonight and show you what i mean, that is if it touches again, i shimmed the starter with the expose pinion to fit further back, so wish me luck tonight!

**GregWeld** · #8 09-25-2009, 08:39 AM

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when mounted the unengaged pinion is TOUCHING the flywheel, therefore i have to shim the so that armature sits back and therefore sits my pinion further back, this will make it so that my pinion will only touch the the flywheel when engaged.

I will take pictures tonight and show you what i mean, that is if it touches again, i shimmed the starter with the expose pinion to fit further back, so wish me luck tonight!

THAT would explain the grinding you heard perhaps!!

camaro1969 · #9 09-25-2009, 11:43 AM

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THAT would explain the grinding you heard perhaps!!

I never used this starter on the car yet, i only mounted it, and once i noticed it touched, i went back to my older starter. I am yet to mount the mini starter with mounting block that i have shimmed.

70rs, yes i will definintely come down south, i bought the car from monroe, and i hear monroe has awesome car shows!

70rs · #10 09-25-2009, 12:08 PM

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I never used this starter on the car yet, i only mounted it, and once i noticed it touched, i went back to my older starter. I am yet to mount the mini starter with mounting block that i have shimmed.

70rs, yes i will definintely come down south, i bought the car from monroe, and i hear monroe has awesome car shows!

There are some decent shows and a pretty good swap meet at monroe. I am about 30 min west of there. Next time you come down let me know, I'll drag you all over the place and show you the local "car stuff" and a few shops and dealers down here. I can easily burn a whole day just farting around looking at car related places down here. We have a really good interior shop, a couple of good speed shops/tuners, one dealer that is fun to go look at but I would never buy anything there. I'll send you my cell number in a PM.

There are also a couple of decent cruise ins on Friday night and Saturday nights but they end around the first of October and start back up in the spring. There are also a bunch of teamchevelle and Nastyz28 members around here and all are good people to hang out with.