Calling ALL pro's, I JUST CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!

[Vegas69]

Most minin starters are set up for multiple applications. Most will work with 153/168 flywheels and evidentally two different flywheel depths. My engine has been line bored and has an aftermarket crankshaft and flywheel. That definitely comes into play as well. I have the GMPP mini starter so I know it's built to GM specs.

[ccracin]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Most minin starters are set up for multiple applications. Most will work with 153/168 flywheels and evidentally two different flywheel depths. My engine has been line bored and has an aftermarket crankshaft and flywheel. That definitely comes into play as well. I have the GMPP mini starter so I know it's built to GM specs.

All this proves you have to sweat the details. Hopefully Camaro1969 gets his problem resolved. Good stuff here.

[camaro1969]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

THAT would explain the grinding you heard perhaps!!

I never used this starter on the car yet, i only mounted it, and once i noticed it touched, i went back to my older starter. I am yet to mount the mini starter with mounting block that i have shimmed.

70rs, yes i will definintely come down south, i bought the car from monroe, and i hear monroe has awesome car shows!

[70rs]

Originally Posted by camaro1969

I never used this starter on the car yet, i only mounted it, and once i noticed it touched, i went back to my older starter. I am yet to mount the mini starter with mounting block that i have shimmed.

70rs, yes i will definintely come down south, i bought the car from monroe, and i hear monroe has awesome car shows!

There are some decent shows and a pretty good swap meet at monroe. I am about 30 min west of there. Next time you come down let me know, I'll drag you all over the place and show you the local "car stuff" and a few shops and dealers down here. I can easily burn a whole day just farting around looking at car related places down here. We have a really good interior shop, a couple of good speed shops/tuners, one dealer that is fun to go look at but I would never buy anything there. I'll send you my cell number in a PM.

There are also a couple of decent cruise ins on Friday night and Saturday nights but they end around the first of October and start back up in the spring. There are also a bunch of teamchevelle and Nastyz28 members around here and all are good people to hang out with.

[chr2002ca]

I'm a little late to the party here, but I just wanted to add that sometimes a freakin starter will gag on the flywheel no matter how well you shim it. I bought a brand new Powermaster mini starter and attached it to my brand new, unmodified GM crate motor and that frickin thing would occasionally just gag and crunch on the flywheel. I had both sets of clearances perfect and the thing still did it occasionally. At first, I thought it might be an insufficient voltage or ground causing the problem, but it wasn't. I pulled that started and replaced it with a Tilton(no shims needed) and the Tilton has worked perfectly every time. It's very possible the Powermaster unit I got wasn't any good. Maybe it was a factory defect or something. It happens all the time so it wouldn't be surprising. I bought it new from Summit and it comes with 'starter dyno' sheet from Powermaster but that doesn't mean it couldn't have a flywheel engagement problem. Anyway, the moral to my long-winded story is, sometimes it's just the friggin starter and you should try a different one.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by MarkM66

I still don't understand why you stated this:

"There are three different flywheel "tooth counts"... and some starters might only mesh with one or the other. One is 142 teeth, one is 158 teeth - the other is 163" THIS IS JUST A TYPO I MEANT 153 AND 168 I DIDN'T MENTION THE 139 BECAUSE BOTH THE 139 AND 142 ARE RARE WHACKO COMBO'S - BUT WANTED HIM TO CHECK WHAT HE HAD BEFORE PROCEEDING.

So why no mention of the most common 153 and 168? PER ABOVE

Then you give a link to a 139 count, which also isn't included your three set of numbers. I WASN'T TRYING TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE WITH DATA - I WAS REALLY JUST POINTING OUT THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT FLYWHEELS AND FLEXPLATES - SO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.

When I search flexplate on the summit website, flexplate-Chevrolet, I get that one with 139, 25 at 153, and 42 with 168 . RIGHT - MANY DIFFERENT ONES - THUS IT PAYS TO CHECK WHAT YOU HAVE... RATHER THAN JUST ASSUME YOU HAVE A CERTAIN VERSION.

Not trying to argue, just wondering.

NO PROBLEM NO ARGUMENT - IT'S ALL GOOD.

[camaro1969]

as of right now, starter works fine, ill probably message back with another problem! thanks again to the members that helped

[GregWeld]

Vic ---

Better come down to the Monroe Swap Meet on Saturday!

If you are -- PM me and I'll give you my cell number...

[Vegas69]

Glad it worked out......always happy to help.

[camaro1969]

#@$% #**& !!!!!!!!!!!

i dont know what to do, issue is back, i thought i was able to do it, but i cant...

i called blake at killer customs, $90.00 an hour, may take a few hours, plus travel time, hate to do it, but i cant afford to pay over 200.00 for something that should be done so easy! I even called a local automotive place, and they told me they dont want to get involved in that, and actually hung up on me! i removed both starters and car is just sitting there,, kills me to see it like this.. dont know what i can do!

I used that one that looks like this, and its hard to measure when the engines in the car, i have less than a foot of space to work under, and pinion is hidden

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/33/a1/d814_1_sbl.JPG



The one i have that looks like this (below), the shim that moves the pinion close and further to the flywheels (so that i have a gap of .100 inch, i cant even get the thinest filler gauge in between! and i have already installed the provided shim

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/...91066258_L.jpg