69 Camaro subframe channel to lower

[Vegas69]

Buy yourself a Corvette and save 100k.

[GregWeld]

Brings to mind a statement I even say to myself sometimes.

Just because you can... doesn't mean you should.

You can get these cars plenty low without all the hassle you're going to run into.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Brings to mind a statement I even say to myself sometimes.

Just because you can... doesn't mean you should.

You can get these cars plenty low without all the hassle you're going to run into.

x2

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Brings to mind a statement I even say to myself sometimes.

Just because you can... doesn't mean you should.

You can get these cars plenty low without all the hassle you're going to run into.

What he said...

My car is pretty low. It has DSE's half-height bushings/mounts and that is about as much hassle as I would be willing to go through. If my car had huge wheels it would look just like Doug's. Which brings me to my next point, if you just want a killer stance Doug's car, which you can search for by the title "Apollo 13" proves that you don't need to go wild trying to move the subframe up. For non competitive events our cars both do fine. I don't notice the suspension bottoming out, or really have any other related problems. Basically the subframe height has never been an issue. Exhaust clearance, however, is the problem. And you're going to have problems unless you raise the floor, and if you do, you better pick out your seats, pedals, and steering column to accommodate you because you're likely going to have a lack of headroom.

Matt

[northwests]

Originally Posted by 69MSA

What he said...

My car is pretty low. It has DSE's half-height bushings/mounts and that is about as much hassle as I would be willing to go through. If my car had huge wheels it would look just like Doug's. Which brings me to my next point, if you just want a killer stance Doug's car, which you can search for by the title "Apollo 13" proves that you don't need to go wild trying to move the subframe up. For non competitive events our cars both do fine. I don't notice the suspension bottoming out, or really have any other related problems. Basically the subframe height has never been an issue. Exhaust clearance, however, is the problem. And you're going to have problems unless you raise the floor, and if you do, you better pick out your seats, pedals, and steering column to accommodate you because you're likely going to have a lack of headroom.

Matt

I do love your car. Nice job. One of my biggest problems with the 69 imo looking at it from the side is the exhaust hanging low and the subframe hanging low. maybe a rocker extension may cover it up, but why not drop your suspension a couple inches without sacrificing travel or geometry and cure the issue at the same time. I have done bodydrops on trucks so modifying seats, exhaust, steering, pedals and dealing with headroom are all part of that. I am no expert but I am always thinking and trying to build things the way I envision them(maybe not for eveyone)

[northwests]

Thought I would include this picture of my truck, and I expect the "why would you do that" comments, but why wouldn't you is the real question. Full airride, four link with a watts link as well. This truck handles really well when it's off the ground of course.

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by northwests

I do love your car. Nice job. One of my biggest problems with the 69 imo looking at it from the side is the exhaust hanging low and the subframe hanging low. maybe a rocker extension may cover it up, but why not drop your suspension a couple inches without sacrificing travel or geometry and cure the issue at the same time. I have done bodydrops on trucks so modifying seats, exhaust, steering, pedals and dealing with headroom are all part of that. I am no expert but I am always thinking and trying to build things the way I envision them(maybe not for eveyone)

I would just make rockers and use oval exhaust where it hangs really low. As for why a person wouldn't want to cut the floor... well rebuilding a floor isn't exactly cheap. After putting putting more than a week into building a floor, then you have to have someone build you a set of custom headers. I can't say I've ever seen a car under 200K that has had that much modification. I'm not saying it can't be done, or hasn't been done but generally anyone considering this kind of modification is going to build the entire car to a high level of detail, using expensive parts.

And like others said, if you plan on buying the best parts for your suspension and engine, you will end up close to 100K deep into a roller with a really cool stance and custom floor.

Matt

[northwests]

Originally Posted by 69MSA

I would just make rockers and use oval exhaust where it hangs really low. As for why a person wouldn't want to cut the floor... well rebuilding a floor isn't exactly cheap. After putting putting more than a week into building a floor, then you have to have someone build you a set of custom headers. I can't say I've ever seen a car under 200K that has had that much modification. I'm not saying it can't be done, or hasn't been done but generally anyone considering this kind of modification is going to build the entire car to a high level of detail, using expensive parts.

And like others said, if you plan on buying the best parts for your suspension and engine, you will end up close to 100K deep into a roller with a really cool stance and custom floor.

Matt

I will do my best and see where it leads-I sure hope it does'nt cost that much. Thank you guys for taking the time here.

[canrc]

I can attest to what Matt is saying...I am channeling the body of my car and man everything has to be custom, headers, rad support, tank, seat mounts, inner fenders and the list goes on! Hopefully it will be worth it at the end but all the parts add up VERY quickly!

[northwests]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Brings to mind a statement I even say to myself sometimes.

Just because you can... doesn't mean you should.

You can get these cars plenty low without all the hassle you're going to run into.

Your idea of low enough may not be my idea of low enough. The fact that so many of these rides these days have airride to get the stance they want is a travesty. Engineer it to be what you envision, build it that way. I love the stance of these with all the air out. Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of airride as I have done it for years, but I want the stance without the air.