Choosing an aftermarket subframe

[Astontibs]

Thanks for the responses so far guys. As far as the use of the car, it is street driven aggressively, taken to car shows and occasionally drag raced for fun. I do not care about optimizing for the drags. I like to drive aggressively on winding roads and highway offramps. I do not intend to take the car on a road course.
Speedtech is an impressive unit, but it is $3K more than the Martz unit.
I hadn't researched Scott Mock, DSE (Detroit Speed?), AME (Art Morrison?), or Jakes and will check them out.
I want to check out the guy with the Martz unit over on Pro Touring.
Please keep the comments coming.

[Vegas69]

I think you should consider the TCI subframe. Sal and the boys over there have proven time and time again that their stuff works and it's very reasonably priced. Good group of guys too.....

[Astontibs]

I'll check out TCI also.
Anybody with the Martz or Heidts want to weigh in?

[garymac69]

IMHO....if you are not going to do SERIOUS road racing or autocross then the stock subframe works great. Check out the performance they obtained on this '67 Camaro with primarily bolt-on parts from Ridetech:
http://48hourcamaro.com/

[slow4dr]

Originally Posted by Astontibs

I'll check out TCI also.

As of today there isn't a stock height option but it will be available very soon.

-J

[Blake Foster]

[QUOTE=Astontibs;354322]Thanks for the responses so far guys. As far as the use of the car, it is street driven aggressively, taken to car shows and occasionally drag raced for fun. I do not care about optimizing for the drags. I like to drive aggressively on winding roads and highway offramps. I do not intend to take the car on a road course.
Speedtech is an impressive unit, but it is $3K more than the Martz unit.

I just want to CALRIFY that the Martz is only 1284.00 less than the Speedtech unit when all the options are included that make them comparible component wise. not 3000.00

[Astontibs]

[QUOTE=killer69;354377]

Originally Posted by Astontibs

Thanks for the responses so far guys. As far as the use of the car, it is street driven aggressively, taken to car shows and occasionally drag raced for fun. I do not care about optimizing for the drags. I like to drive aggressively on winding roads and highway offramps. I do not intend to take the car on a road course.
Speedtech is an impressive unit, but it is $3K more than the Martz unit.

I just want to CALRIFY that the Martz is only 1284.00 less than the Speedtech unit when all the options are included that make them comparible component wise. not 3000.00

Blake I'd love to talk to you because I developed a spreadsheet where I am comparing them and the Speedtech came out to $7967 and the Martz came out to $4965. On the Speedtech this includes the ATS spindle and 13" brake package, universal steering connection kit and $200 crating fee. Oh and I didn't mention the $500 shipping which would make it $8467 because I can pick the Martz unit up at Carlisle, PA in the fall. I wish the difference was only $1300, because I would go with the Speedtech.

[Blake Foster]

feel free to call me i will do up an estimate for you and compare .

if you are adding the AFX spindle you are not making a fair comparison. as the geometry will be FAR better and from the intended use you have stated are not required.

have you seen this

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...must_login.htm

[Roadrage David]

Witch one of all these afthermarket subframes is the lightest??.
becase with all the BS aside when you get one for roadracing then thats the ""only"" thing more intresting then al that other stuff that is supost to make them beter at handling then a stock factory subframe.

There are so manny afther marked suspention goodies availeble that you actualy can ""save"" your money getting a afthermarket subframe and stick it in something els...
I have seen to many stock equipt subframe road racers compeat against purpose build full tube frame cars and win!!..
chek this guy out http://forums.performanceyears.com/f...d.php?t=663834
then these videos http://youtu.be/pv4qouMwhj8
http://youtu.be/MJ9fGZOcj_A
He overtakes DTM BMW. BMW M1. Kremer 935 K3 1000 hp lemanse winning porshe . Dytona Cobra . most of the cars in his class run with apr 650 to 1000 hp. his set up is FAR from perfect with a 4 speed manual and a 3.08 rear ratio STOCK spindles. he leaves at least 2 sec a lap at the track.
Nevertheless UNLESS you are planning to drive more radical then him then you dont need a afthermarked subframe unless you whant bragging rights...

[kovert]

Originally Posted by Roadrage David

Witch one of all these afthermarket subframes is the lightest??.
becase with all the BS aside when you get one for roadracing then thats the ""only"" thing more intresting then al that other stuff that is supost to make them beter at handling then a stock factory subframe.

There are so manny afther marked suspention goodies availeble that you actualy can ""save"" your money getting a afthermarket subframe and stick it in something els...
I have seen to many stock equipt subframe road racers compeat against purpose build full tube frame cars and win!!..
chek this guy out http://forums.performanceyears.com/f...d.php?t=663834
then these videos http://youtu.be/pv4qouMwhj8
http://youtu.be/MJ9fGZOcj_A
He overtakes DTM BMW. BMW M1. Kremer 935 K3 1000 hp lemanse winning porshe . Dytona Cobra . most of the cars in his class run with apr 650 to 1000 hp. his set up is FAR from perfect with a 4 speed manual and a 3.08 rear ratio STOCK spindles. he leaves at least 2 sec a lap at the track.
Nevertheless UNLESS you are planning to drive more radical then him then you dont need a afthermarked subframe unless you whant bragging rights...

so what a arms spindles etc do u reccomend