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Old 07-15-2012, 12:52 PM
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Mark,What is the spacer for between the bellhousing and trans.Is the clutch setup thicker than stack.Wiring is extra clean.
The spacer is .850" thick to allow the stack up to be correct to run a LS9 twin disk cllutch in front of a TR6060 with a 2002 style bellhousing. D&D Perfromance made the spacer and sells them.

I'm on the edge on the stock LS9 clucth but it drives great with very low effort and a great feel.

We build all the wiring from scratch. If you start with a GMPP LSA harness it is much easier.

Ryan Kuhlenbeck also wired Red Devil and we used that as a templete for this build.

The VanNus's (Dutchboys Restoration) is starting to shoot color tomorrow so I'm getting closer to getting the car back.

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Old 07-15-2012, 01:14 PM
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Mark the wiring looks great! Question for you how come you do not run a scatter shield?? So when are we going to see the color???
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Hi Mark,

Did D&D performance do any tricks on the inside of the transmission, or is it stock from the factory? Also I see an oil pump for the trans, are you just using the fill and drain ports to remove the oil or is there some sort of spray bar in there?

The car is coming along nice hopefully I will be able to see it in person one day.

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HEY Mark, where do you buy all your wiring blank plugs and etc.? I'm still using GM weather pack stuff but sometimes I need more then 5-6 slots.
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Looks great Mark!
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Mark,

From the pictures, it appears that you are running the stock bellhousing, unless that was just for mockup. Is that correct? At the power levels you are making, do you not think you would want something stronger? Or is your opinion that the stock bellhousing would be sufficient in case of a clutch failure?

Also, on your transmission cooler, I don't know what transmission temps are supposed to be, but I think I just read that the Weldon pump is thermostatically controlled. Is that correct, and do you run within that window, or do you control/override it somehow?

Finally, what size lines are you running to/from the trans cooler? I would think that a heavy weight oil like that would need larger lines, but I think I read that the pump is set up for -6AN lines?

As always, appreciate the education!
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:51 PM
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The problem with a Nova is it costs just as much to build as a Camaro if not more and when you are done and ready to sell it you will probably have half as many Nova buyers and will be lucky to get half as much.
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Mark,

From the pictures, it appears that you are running the stock bellhousing, unless that was just for mockup. Is that correct? At the power levels you are making, do you not think you would want something stronger? Or is your opinion that the stock bellhousing would be sufficient in case of a clutch failure?

Also, on your transmission cooler, I don't know what transmission temps are supposed to be, but I think I just read that the Weldon pump is thermostatically controlled. Is that correct, and do you run within that window, or do you control/override it somehow?

Finally, what size lines are you running to/from the trans cooler? I would think that a heavy weight oil like that would need larger lines, but I think I read that the pump is set up for -6AN lines?

As always, appreciate the education!
I'm using this setup - Weldon pump drawing from the drain, returning through the fill, with a small FluidDyne cooler, on my D&D T56. No T-stat - just a switch. With the cooler on, temps typically stay below 200F. On a couple of occasions when I forgot to flip the switch, temps would climb into the high 200s by 10 minutes into a track session, and shifting would start to get sticky.

In "normal" driving, temps never exceed low 200s without the cooler on.

One thing we did was use a single fluid temp gauge with sensors in the diff, trans, and engine, then use a 3-way switch to select which is displayed. I'll usually monitor engine oil temp during a run, then check on trans and diff temp during the cool-down lap. I'm not running a diff cooler, and have seen 260-270 diff temps with synthetic diff fluid on hot days. Marginal, but not enough to have me figure out how to package diff cooling in my setup just yet. Oh, and don't get me started on all of the tricks we had to use to keep diff fluid from being pumped out during a session ...

In my case I'm using a QuickTime 4th-gen F-body housing. SFI rated, and still relatively light. I figure I wouldn't need it if I was confident I would never hit 3rd while upshifting to 5th - but I'm not quite that confident

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HEY Mark, where do you buy all your wiring blank plugs and etc.? I'm still using GM weather pack stuff but sometimes I need more then 5-6 slots.
I'd also like to know where to buy them.
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HEY Mark, where do you buy all your wiring blank plugs and etc.? I'm still using GM weather pack stuff but sometimes I need more then 5-6 slots.
I can't answer for Mark, but the company I work for does some GM harness work for the aftermarket. We have found powerandsignal.com to be your best bet for higher quantity orders and mouser.com to be the best for low quantity.
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