1967 Camaro for OUSCI

[carbuff]

Mark,

From the pictures, it appears that you are running the stock bellhousing, unless that was just for mockup. Is that correct? At the power levels you are making, do you not think you would want something stronger? Or is your opinion that the stock bellhousing would be sufficient in case of a clutch failure?

Also, on your transmission cooler, I don't know what transmission temps are supposed to be, but I think I just read that the Weldon pump is thermostatically controlled. Is that correct, and do you run within that window, or do you control/override it somehow?

Finally, what size lines are you running to/from the trans cooler? I would think that a heavy weight oil like that would need larger lines, but I think I read that the pump is set up for -6AN lines?

As always, appreciate the education!

[clill]

The problem with a Nova is it costs just as much to build as a Camaro if not more and when you are done and ready to sell it you will probably have half as many Nova buyers and will be lucky to get half as much.

[MarkM66]

Originally Posted by clill

The problem with a Nova is it costs just as much to build as a Camaro if not more and when you are done and ready to sell it you will probably have half as many Nova buyers and will be lucky to get half as much.

So true; And starter cars aren't that far apart on price either.

[Stielow]

Originally Posted by clill

The problem with a Nova is it costs just as much to build as a Camaro if not more and when you are done and ready to sell it you will probably have half as many Nova buyers and will be lucky to get half as much.

People always give me a hard time for building "another First Gen Camaro". I build Camaro's because I really like them and when you it comes time to sell them they are easy to sell. I also have a ton of spare parts....

Mark

[sokoloka]

Any teaser pics of the final color choice?

[Greg from Aus]

Mark,

Are you using a oil pump for diff cooling? if so can you let me know were you are running the return to, I'm using a weldon pump and trying to work out how to plumb it.

Thanks
Greg

[b757jetdr]

Hello Mark,
I have a quick question for you, what was the reason you went with a full roll cage (at least from the pics) vs a 4 point like you used in Red Devil?? I am in the building stages of a 69 and was going to do the full cage with enginge bay bars etc.. (not sure if thats the proper term) but I talked it over with my builder (Billy Utley) and came to the decision that for what I am going to use the car for a 4 point will work for me. I still toss the idea around to be honest as I can see my self getting this car done taking it to the track and really getting addicted to the track events. I plan to use the car for street,cruises, and some track events. I thought I remembered reading a bilp from you once that you never use anything more than a 4 point, then this car popped up so just wondered if there was a reason?

Also one last question, what did you use to wrap/cover your wire bundles with??

I love your car and look forward to seeing it come together. I am hoping to have mine close to done next summer!

[Garage Dog 65]

Hi Mark,

I check through the entire build and what a beast this should be !

I didn't see where anyone had asked this before - but what color are you gonna paint this one ???




Jim

[PTAddict]

Originally Posted by carbuff

Mark,

From the pictures, it appears that you are running the stock bellhousing, unless that was just for mockup. Is that correct? At the power levels you are making, do you not think you would want something stronger? Or is your opinion that the stock bellhousing would be sufficient in case of a clutch failure?

Also, on your transmission cooler, I don't know what transmission temps are supposed to be, but I think I just read that the Weldon pump is thermostatically controlled. Is that correct, and do you run within that window, or do you control/override it somehow?

Finally, what size lines are you running to/from the trans cooler? I would think that a heavy weight oil like that would need larger lines, but I think I read that the pump is set up for -6AN lines?

As always, appreciate the education!

I'm using this setup - Weldon pump drawing from the drain, returning through the fill, with a small FluidDyne cooler, on my D&D T56. No T-stat - just a switch. With the cooler on, temps typically stay below 200F. On a couple of occasions when I forgot to flip the switch, temps would climb into the high 200s by 10 minutes into a track session, and shifting would start to get sticky.

In "normal" driving, temps never exceed low 200s without the cooler on.

One thing we did was use a single fluid temp gauge with sensors in the diff, trans, and engine, then use a 3-way switch to select which is displayed. I'll usually monitor engine oil temp during a run, then check on trans and diff temp during the cool-down lap. I'm not running a diff cooler, and have seen 260-270 diff temps with synthetic diff fluid on hot days. Marginal, but not enough to have me figure out how to package diff cooling in my setup just yet. Oh, and don't get me started on all of the tricks we had to use to keep diff fluid from being pumped out during a session ...

In my case I'm using a QuickTime 4th-gen F-body housing. SFI rated, and still relatively light. I figure I wouldn't need it if I was confident I would never hit 3rd while upshifting to 5th - but I'm not quite that confident

[carbuff]

Originally Posted by PTAddict

I'm using this setup - Weldon pump drawing from the drain, returning through the fill, with a small FluidDyne cooler, on my D&D T56. No T-stat - just a switch. With the cooler on, temps typically stay below 200F. On a couple of occasions when I forgot to flip the switch, temps would climb into the high 200s by 10 minutes into a track session, and shifting would start to get sticky.

In "normal" driving, temps never exceed low 200s without the cooler on.

Thanx for the reply. One last question, if you don't mind. What size lines did you run to the cooler and back? I was concerned that such a heavy fluid might need more than -6AN lines...