1969 Camaro tru-turn

[Blake Foster]

IT APPEARS that the Speedtech Ls headers will fit with no issues. I am just checking today if the ATS oil pan and our new frame stands for the engine mounts will work also.

[cwylie]

Are the speedtech headers being produced again? I think the mid length headers would fit without a problem from what I have seen. Todd from holley may be able to confirm.

[paulk68]

Originally Posted by Blake Foster

IT APPEARS that the Speedtech Ls headers will fit with no issues. I am just checking today if the ATS oil pan and our new frame stands for the engine mounts will work also.

Very intersted in hearing your results, is that on a stock subframe our your subframe?

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by paulk68

Very intersted in hearing your results, is that on a stock subframe our your subframe?

That is on a stock Sub frame. looking at the pictures the headers are nowhere even close to where the steering would be. the only question I need to answer is if the ATS oil pan will clear the truturn components and I will know that in the next couple days

[jlwdvm]

Hopefully my wheels will be here soon so I can get them mounted up to see what mods will be needed to get them to fit. I'm also waiting on Speed Tech to see how there parts work with the Tru Turn before I order anything. My 570 horse LS3 should be here from Texas Speed tomorrow and I am talking with Bowler Transnmissions about getting an order together for a T56 and everything else needed to get it installed. It is amazing how quickly you can spend money on these things!

[paulk68]

Originally Posted by Blake Foster

That is on a stock Sub frame. looking at the pictures the headers are nowhere even close to where the steering would be. the only question I need to answer is if the ATS oil pan will clear the truturn components and I will know that in the next couple days

Thank you very much I can not wait to see what you find cuz I would like to order my setup soon

[jlwdvm]

Time to come up with a plan for the fender lip! See post #56:
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/1...76#post1061576

[jlwdvm]

I set the car at a ride height of 23 7/8" and turned the tires lock-to-lock in both directions and the results are: Full right turn- driver's side has 1/4" clearance from the bottom of the fender to the tire and passenger has 1/8" clearance. On a full left turn the driver's side has just over 0" clearance and barely touches the sub frame. Passenger side has 1/4" clearance.

Fender clearance becomes an issue on compression of the outside suspension on a hard turn. The fender (at least mine) will need to be massaged to gain clearance so the tire doesn't rub when the car rolls over during the turn. The inner fender will need some work so that the top of the tire doesn't hit on compression as well.

All in all, I think things turned out better than I expected. I am using a 275 Toyo R888 with a 18x9.5 rim with 6" back space. Camber was set at 1.7ish negative.

My car is still in primer with original front fenders that have inner lips that have been bent a little somewhere along the way. I tentatively plan on cutting out a section of the fender lip and welding in a new one that angles almost straight up to gain clearance on hard turns. That plan could change!

[mfain]

Don't know if this will help you, but it is a technique I use to verify clearance on not only the wheel lip, but also things like inside fender panels, brake lines, the control arms and tie rod. I build a tire/wheel profile out of plywood and bolt it to the front and back of a plywood disk that replicates the tire diameter. Then I remove the springs and run the suspension through its entire travel, rotating the wheel to check clearance on various components. The technique has proven especially valuable with very high travel suspensions. Unfortunately, the solution to issues usually involves a chainsaw. LOL

Pappy

[glr0212]

Originally Posted by jlwdvm

I set the car at a ride height of 23 7/8" and turned the tires lock-to-lock in both directions and the results are: Full right turn- driver's side has 1/4" clearance from the bottom of the fender to the tire and passenger has 1/8" clearance. On a full left turn the driver's side has just over 0" clearance and barely touches the sub frame. Passenger side has 1/4" clearance.

Fender clearance becomes an issue on compression of the outside suspension on a hard turn. The fender (at least mine) will need to be massaged to gain clearance so the tire doesn't rub when the car rolls over during the turn. The inner fender will need some work so that the top of the tire doesn't hit on compression as well.

All in all, I think things turned out better than I expected. I am using a 275 Toyo R888 with a 18x9.5 rim with 6" back space. Camber was set at 1.7ish negative.

My car is still in primer with original front fenders that have inner lips that have been bent a little somewhere along the way. I tentatively plan on cutting out a section of the fender lip and welding in a new one that angles almost straight up to gain clearance on hard turns. That plan could change!

Any Updates? Any idea where your alignment sits? How many shims do you have? That would help me. I've stuffed another 3/8 worth of shims in the cross member but I cant put the car on the ground until I get my rear end back from the shop.