1969 Camaro tru-turn

[paulk68]

Originally Posted by Blake Foster

That is on a stock Sub frame. looking at the pictures the headers are nowhere even close to where the steering would be. the only question I need to answer is if the ATS oil pan will clear the truturn components and I will know that in the next couple days

Thank you very much I can not wait to see what you find cuz I would like to order my setup soon

[glr0212]

Originally Posted by jlwdvm

I re-read the complete thread again and am trying to figure out how switching between a 9 and 10" wheel alters how the wheel and tire combo fits in the wheel well, with the the 275 tire size and back spacing remaining the same. The V40's I want to use max out at 9.5" wide, and I'm thinking with my Wilwoods at +0.38" I will need to use 6" backspacing. Thoughts?

You are a brave soul. I'm still waiting on the visual evidence on a real life running driving 69 camaro.

[cwylie]

Originally Posted by glr0212

You are a brave soul. I'm still waiting on the visual evidence on a real life running driving 69 camaro.

Have you measured your backspace yet just to verify it is what you think it is?

[jlwdvm]

See last post: http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/1...Grip-69-Camaro

[glr0212]

I did measure. Im around 6.125-6.25 BS

Sweet thread by mr david on the other site. I posted up.some detail questions. Hopefully he will respond with some more info we can add to this thread.

His car sits low, I'm surprised it works.

[Stovebolter]

Hello. Thought I should mention that I failed to mention the pictures I have provided thus far was not at ride height with the exception of the picture looking from the rear of he car toward the front. But you can't see much of the front in that picture. Sorry guys. In most of the pictures the air coils were deflated completely.

David

[jlwdvm]

Time to come up with a plan for the fender lip! See post #56:
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/1...76#post1061576

[jlwdvm]

I set the car at a ride height of 23 7/8" and turned the tires lock-to-lock in both directions and the results are: Full right turn- driver's side has 1/4" clearance from the bottom of the fender to the tire and passenger has 1/8" clearance. On a full left turn the driver's side has just over 0" clearance and barely touches the sub frame. Passenger side has 1/4" clearance.

Fender clearance becomes an issue on compression of the outside suspension on a hard turn. The fender (at least mine) will need to be massaged to gain clearance so the tire doesn't rub when the car rolls over during the turn. The inner fender will need some work so that the top of the tire doesn't hit on compression as well.

All in all, I think things turned out better than I expected. I am using a 275 Toyo R888 with a 18x9.5 rim with 6" back space. Camber was set at 1.7ish negative.

My car is still in primer with original front fenders that have inner lips that have been bent a little somewhere along the way. I tentatively plan on cutting out a section of the fender lip and welding in a new one that angles almost straight up to gain clearance on hard turns. That plan could change!

[mfain]

Don't know if this will help you, but it is a technique I use to verify clearance on not only the wheel lip, but also things like inside fender panels, brake lines, the control arms and tie rod. I build a tire/wheel profile out of plywood and bolt it to the front and back of a plywood disk that replicates the tire diameter. Then I remove the springs and run the suspension through its entire travel, rotating the wheel to check clearance on various components. The technique has proven especially valuable with very high travel suspensions. Unfortunately, the solution to issues usually involves a chainsaw. LOL

Pappy

[glr0212]

Originally Posted by jlwdvm

I set the car at a ride height of 23 7/8" and turned the tires lock-to-lock in both directions and the results are: Full right turn- driver's side has 1/4" clearance from the bottom of the fender to the tire and passenger has 1/8" clearance. On a full left turn the driver's side has just over 0" clearance and barely touches the sub frame. Passenger side has 1/4" clearance.

Fender clearance becomes an issue on compression of the outside suspension on a hard turn. The fender (at least mine) will need to be massaged to gain clearance so the tire doesn't rub when the car rolls over during the turn. The inner fender will need some work so that the top of the tire doesn't hit on compression as well.

All in all, I think things turned out better than I expected. I am using a 275 Toyo R888 with a 18x9.5 rim with 6" back space. Camber was set at 1.7ish negative.

My car is still in primer with original front fenders that have inner lips that have been bent a little somewhere along the way. I tentatively plan on cutting out a section of the fender lip and welding in a new one that angles almost straight up to gain clearance on hard turns. That plan could change!

Any Updates? Any idea where your alignment sits? How many shims do you have? That would help me. I've stuffed another 3/8 worth of shims in the cross member but I cant put the car on the ground until I get my rear end back from the shop.