JCG Restoration & Customs 70 Challenger 2nd Test Car!

[GRob]

Chris, what size wheels are you using on this car?

Oh and it needs a Hellcat under the hood.

[DavidBoren]

Hellcat under the hood? No, mister, no...

Why replace a 700hp naturally aspirated engine with a 700hp blower motor? Oh, and why replace a motor that interchanges with the other cars to one that doesn't? And why put a Mopar engine in it at all? Then it wouldn't irritate all the Mopar snobs, and that's one of the best parts of this build... right up there with the awesome fabrication, amazing test pilot cast, and the obvious craftsmanship behind the parts/assembly of a car that can be beat on at the track.

Great car, read the whole build, love it. I wouldn't think twice cutting up an all original anything, give me Carroll Shelby's very own winningest ever AC Cobra, and I will chop it up and stick a GM 'vette suspension in it with a import 2jz engine, just to piss everyone off.

Purists and traditionalists piss me off. If the all original car was worth keeping original, maybe it could have done what the customer wanted without needing to go to a custom shop for a custom build. If the 440+6 was so damn awesome, it wouldn't have needed replaced with an LS motor to achieve what the customer wanted. Same with all the original suspension. Ever think that the customer bought the all original 440+6 because it was a badass car, and then exceeded the abilities of that design and wanted more? Who are any of you to question what someone else wants to spend their money on or do with their own property? Buying something all original just means you have more to change, factory cars aren't built to perform at the level we want them to. Original equipment does us absolutely no good, none. Especially 1970 original equipment.

Tear it out, cut it up, stuff whatever works in, beat the hell out of it, drive it, enjoy it. Leave tradition in the museum.

[57hemicuda]

Cutting up a 6 Pack car is stupid, I really don't know what kind of mental instability Karl and Chris have, they just need to stay away from me so I don't catch it!! It's like herpes.

[DavidBoren]

Why is it stupid? I don't understand that. It wasn't an all original car! Hell, none of them are these days, if you want to get technical... which all you purists seem to be all about being as technical as possible. Did you ever change a spark plug, a bulb, a filter, the air in tires or the oil in the engine? Then it's not original any more... get over it!

This all-so-precious, cream of the crop, 6-pack car didn't live up to its owner's expectations as it was... end of story. It wasn't F'ing good enough as it was in its close to original state.

What was he supposed to do, huh? Sell the Challenger he already had in his possession, buy a different Challenger, in worse condition, that will take longer and cost more to build, just to not piss in some Mopar fanatic's cheerios? Get real. Buy a nice car, in good condition, so it can be built how you want it quicker, and drive the piss out of it. He bought the car to drive, not collect, and it wasn't going to drive how he wants to drive it in its Mopar V-code Hemi 6-pack version, so he changed it. It's his car to change. Why does anyone think that they have the right to judge him or anyone else?

If hobbyists and gear heads didn't tinker, swap, and change what the factory put out, then we wouldn't have had any of these muscle cars. Changing what the factory makes is what we do. And it makes the industry better. If the V-code, Hemi 6-pack was never changed by shadetree mechanics, then Dodge never would have evolved to the point of making the Hellcat, because everyone was satisfied with the V-code. Change needs to happen. Welcome to evolution and progress.

[57hemicuda]

Just stupid, Karl and Cris should be publicly flogged. They know why!!!

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by DavidBoren

Why is it stupid? I don't understand that. It wasn't an all original car! Hell, none of them are these days, if you want to get technical... which all you purists seem to be all about being as technical as possible. Did you ever change a spark plug, a bulb, a filter, the air in tires or the oil in the engine? Then it's not original any more... get over it!

This all-so-precious, cream of the crop, 6-pack car didn't live up to its owner's expectations as it was... end of story. It wasn't F'ing good enough as it was in its close to original state.

What was he supposed to do, huh? Sell the Challenger he already had in his possession, buy a different Challenger, in worse condition, that will take longer and cost more to build, just to not piss in some Mopar fanatic's cheerios? Get real. Buy a nice car, in good condition, so it can be built how you want it quicker, and drive the piss out of it. He bought the car to drive, not collect, and it wasn't going to drive how he wants to drive it in its Mopar V-code Hemi 6-pack version, so he changed it. It's his car to change. Why does anyone think that they have the right to judge him or anyone else?

If hobbyists and gear heads didn't tinker, swap, and change what the factory put out, then we wouldn't have had any of these muscle cars. Changing what the factory makes is what we do. And it makes the industry better. If the V-code, Hemi 6-pack was never changed by shadetree mechanics, then Dodge never would have evolved to the point of making the Hellcat, because everyone was satisfied with the V-code. Change needs to happen. Welcome to evolution and progress.

Until you know the players around here -- you should maybe just read.... Many of us are long time friends and understand when someone is giving someone else a load of crap.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Until you know the players around here -- you should maybe just read.... Many of us are long time friends and understand when someone is giving someone else a load of crap.

especially with that guy.....preacher meet choir

but i WAS serious......don't ask him about his knee surgery.

[Cris@JCG]

The car is set up to run two different configerations..

19x12 345-30-19 & 19x11 305-30-19

Currently running

18x12 315-30-18 & 18x11 315-30-18

No Hellcat for this car!! Coming back to CA next month to put some big power behind it..

Originally Posted by GRob

Chris, what size wheels are you using on this car?

Oh and it needs a Hellcat under the hood.

Thank you for texting me & letting me know that you were stiring the pot!

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

Cutting up a 6 Pack car is stupid, I really don't know what kind of mental instability Karl and Chris have, they just need to stay away from me so I don't catch it!! It's like herpes.

David- Believe me when I state this.. We get alot of crap for what we did to this Mopar.. but in the end we still stand behind what we did to this car.. The most controversal car I have built to date & wouldn't change a thing!!

Originally Posted by DavidBoren

Why is it stupid? I don't understand that. It wasn't an all original car! Hell, none of them are these days, if you want to get technical... which all you purists seem to be all about being as technical as possible. Did you ever change a spark plug, a bulb, a filter, the air in tires or the oil in the engine? Then it's not original any more... get over it!

This all-so-precious, cream of the crop, 6-pack car didn't live up to its owner's expectations as it was... end of story. It wasn't F'ing good enough as it was in its close to original state.

What was he supposed to do, huh? Sell the Challenger he already had in his possession, buy a different Challenger, in worse condition, that will take longer and cost more to build, just to not piss in some Mopar fanatic's cheerios? Get real. Buy a nice car, in good condition, so it can be built how you want it quicker, and drive the piss out of it. He bought the car to drive, not collect, and it wasn't going to drive how he wants to drive it in its Mopar V-code Hemi 6-pack version, so he changed it. It's his car to change. Why does anyone think that they have the right to judge him or anyone else?

If hobbyists and gear heads didn't tinker, swap, and change what the factory put out, then we wouldn't have had any of these muscle cars. Changing what the factory makes is what we do. And it makes the industry better. If the V-code, Hemi 6-pack was never changed by shadetree mechanics, then Dodge never would have evolved to the point of making the Hellcat, because everyone was satisfied with the V-code. Change needs to happen. Welcome to evolution and progress.

[DavidBoren]

[QUOTE=Cris@JCG;604128]David- Believe me when I state this.. We get alot of crap for what we did to this Mopar.. but in the end we still stand behind what we did to this car.. The most controversal car I have built to date & wouldn't change a thing!![/QUOTE]

Good to hear. Keep up the good work.

[MoparCar]

Cris,
Do you have the e-body front clip available for production? In other words is it an available product for you to produce without a customers car in possession-existing JIG and files to cut it? Awesome car.

Thanks, Wes