So last Saturday (July 26th) took the Challenger out for some testing with the new intake to Streets of Willow & hurt the engine.. I thought I was done & was not going to make the event with USCA in Portland but Karl let me borrow a back up motor for the event.. bone stock LS3 crate engine with a cam..
I hadn't followed this build since way back when all the driveline was sold off up until now when it popped up in Hot Rod's recent issue. I had missed the post above in the meantime.
So are two custom built and one stock with a cam LSs still cheaper and easier than a well built 3G Hemi?
Last I checked an Indy Cylinder Head 426cid 3G Hemi with 720 hp is $18,500. An Arrington 440cid 3G Hemi making 630hp is $16,950. I think those are right there in the hunt price and power wise with some of those Mast offerings.
Finally found some time to get some work done on the Challenger.. Next week we get the trunk & hood mounted.. & the driving begins to proof all the prototype suspension we have developed.. So far all is looking good!
We got 4 cars we run.. We can swap motors or keep one spare & keep us racing.. As long as we own the Challenger.. It will be powered by an LS..
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Originally Posted by hp2
I hadn't followed this build since way back when all the driveline was sold off up until now when it popped up in Hot Rod's recent issue. I had missed the post above in the meantime.
So are two custom built and one stock with a cam LSs still cheaper and easier than a well built 3G Hemi?
Last I checked an Indy Cylinder Head 426cid 3G Hemi with 720 hp is $18,500. An Arrington 440cid 3G Hemi making 630hp is $16,950. I think those are right there in the hunt price and power wise with some of those Mast offerings.
Why replace a 700hp naturally aspirated engine with a 700hp blower motor? Oh, and why replace a motor that interchanges with the other cars to one that doesn't? And why put a Mopar engine in it at all? Then it wouldn't irritate all the Mopar snobs, and that's one of the best parts of this build... right up there with the awesome fabrication, amazing test pilot cast, and the obvious craftsmanship behind the parts/assembly of a car that can be beat on at the track.
Great car, read the whole build, love it. I wouldn't think twice cutting up an all original anything, give me Carroll Shelby's very own winningest ever AC Cobra, and I will chop it up and stick a GM 'vette suspension in it with a import 2jz engine, just to piss everyone off.
Purists and traditionalists piss me off. If the all original car was worth keeping original, maybe it could have done what the customer wanted without needing to go to a custom shop for a custom build. If the 440+6 was so damn awesome, it wouldn't have needed replaced with an LS motor to achieve what the customer wanted. Same with all the original suspension. Ever think that the customer bought the all original 440+6 because it was a badass car, and then exceeded the abilities of that design and wanted more? Who are any of you to question what someone else wants to spend their money on or do with their own property? Buying something all original just means you have more to change, factory cars aren't built to perform at the level we want them to. Original equipment does us absolutely no good, none. Especially 1970 original equipment.
Tear it out, cut it up, stuff whatever works in, beat the hell out of it, drive it, enjoy it. Leave tradition in the museum.
Cutting up a 6 Pack car is stupid, I really don't know what kind of mental instability Karl and Chris have, they just need to stay away from me so I don't catch it!! It's like herpes.
Last edited by 57hemicuda; 04-24-2015 at 02:12 PM.
Why is it stupid? I don't understand that. It wasn't an all original car! Hell, none of them are these days, if you want to get technical... which all you purists seem to be all about being as technical as possible. Did you ever change a spark plug, a bulb, a filter, the air in tires or the oil in the engine? Then it's not original any more... get over it!
This all-so-precious, cream of the crop, 6-pack car didn't live up to its owner's expectations as it was... end of story. It wasn't F'ing good enough as it was in its close to original state.
What was he supposed to do, huh? Sell the Challenger he already had in his possession, buy a different Challenger, in worse condition, that will take longer and cost more to build, just to not piss in some Mopar fanatic's cheerios? Get real. Buy a nice car, in good condition, so it can be built how you want it quicker, and drive the piss out of it. He bought the car to drive, not collect, and it wasn't going to drive how he wants to drive it in its Mopar V-code Hemi 6-pack version, so he changed it. It's his car to change. Why does anyone think that they have the right to judge him or anyone else?
If hobbyists and gear heads didn't tinker, swap, and change what the factory put out, then we wouldn't have had any of these muscle cars. Changing what the factory makes is what we do. And it makes the industry better. If the V-code, Hemi 6-pack was never changed by shadetree mechanics, then Dodge never would have evolved to the point of making the Hellcat, because everyone was satisfied with the V-code. Change needs to happen. Welcome to evolution and progress.
Cutting up a 6 Pack car is stupid, I really don't what kind of mental instability Karl and Chris have, they just need to stay away from me so I don't catch it!! It's like herpes.
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